Asha—Not Yara! Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Eh, I don't the actor was that bad. I liked the last scene between him and Ned. I do agree though that he doesn't live up to the book version of Renly so far. Hopefully he'll shine more in season 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotPiesBastard Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Totally Agree with the Rant. Renly was sort of a let down in the show. But it seems that the Knight of the Flowers gives the best BJ in the seven kingdoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinso Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I'll add my voice - the show's Renly has very little in common with the book's Renly, both visually and in personality. But what are you going to do - some things are inevitably lost in trasnlation. Heck, different from the books as he is, Renly is far from being the show biggest failed character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinso Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Double post... Mods, feel free to nuke it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fan Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I'll add my voice - the show's Renly has very little in common with the book's Renly, both visually and in personality. But what are you going to do - some things are inevitably lost in translation. Heck, different from the books as he is, Renly is far from being the show biggest failed character.I can only assume that something in the on-screen Renly really sold the producers on selecting him during his audition that we haven't had the opportunity to see just yet.(fingers crossed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadence Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 The actor definitely seems more like young Stannis than Renly, as people have noted.I think his presence is definitely off. However, the bigger problem to me is that he isn't being played like Renly. Where's the carefree smile and laughter? The guy is uptight, not carefree. He's like anti-Renly.As someone said earlier, this character does not fit with the "peach" scene at all, which is like the iconic Renly moment.I think the casting was off, but I think the way he's being played might be more of a directorial choice. I'm not sure how much of that lies with the actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blackfish Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I don't think the casting is terrible, Gethin Anthony isn't my precisely perfect Renly but I think he could be good enough. I fault the writing more, but I also think that he'll probably be more like the assertive, charismatic confident Renly we know in season two, when he's wearing his pretty shiny hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanna vander Poele Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Was rewatching the series. God, all I have to say is that his diatribe about Robert getting horny when talking about killing Dany was just so... perfectly delivered. If nothing else, the actor has got splendid comedic timing. Plus, his and Loras' interactions were just too darn adorable, even if I always thought Loras in the books was rather innocent and seemingly detached/not involved in the scheming of the other Tyrells. Hope Renly surprises us all and kicks ass in season two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMage Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Was rewatching the series. God, all I have to say is that his diatribe about Robert getting horny when talking about killing Dany was just so... perfectly delivered. If nothing else, the actor has got splendid comedic timing. Plus, his and Loras' interactions were just too darn adorable, even if I always thought Loras in the books was rather innocent and seemingly detached/not involved in the scheming of the other Tyrells. Hope Renly surprises us all and kicks ass in season two.Honestly, we had very few scenes with Renly in the show, even fewer than in the books. Yes, we got the Loras and Renly scene, but nearly all his other scenes were small or private affairs and with very big time characters and actors. Did anyone expect him to steal the scene away from MArk Addy's Robert Baratheon? Or the pivotal scene in the main character's decision to not betray his best friend's memory? The scene between Ned Stark and Renly had to be Sean Bean's scene. He played it well without stealing the spotlight from Bean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7V3N Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I am rewatching the series and this is just too much. Robert Baratheon, black of hair. Stannis Baratheon, black of hair. Renly Baratheon, black brown of hair. Uh, what the hell HBO? Really?! The war was caused by the discovery that the Baratheons ALL HAVE BLACK HAIR! And they make Renly's hair brown? All they really had to do was dye his hair black. Sigh times a million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sparrow Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 The war was caused by the discovery that the Baratheons ALL HAVE BLACK HAIR!Actually, it wasn't. Renly, for example, declared himself king, and when he confronted Stannis he acted like he'd never thought of Cersei's children not being Robert's, so there was going to be war anyway. Besides, brown or black doesn't make that much difference, and the whole idea of illegitimacy in medieval times was more about archaic belief and political convenience than any kind of science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7V3N Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Actually, it wasn't. Renly, for example, declared himself king, and when he confronted Stannis he acted like he'd never thought of Cersei's children not being Robert's, so there was going to be war anyway. Besides, brown or black doesn't make that much difference, and the whole idea of illegitimacy in medieval times was more about archaic belief and political convenience than any kind of science.Yes, but I mean that is why Ned confronted Cersei which caused her to "kill" Robert and imprison Ned. That's how it all started--Ned discovering they were bastards because all Baratheon's, even bastards, had the black hair. Robert would have lived (at least longer) if Ned did not discover the true origin of the Joff, Tommen, and Myrcella.They should have just dyed his hair. I don't see ANY reason why they shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sparrow Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Yes, but I mean that is why Ned confronted Cersei which caused her to "kill" Robert and imprison Ned. That's how it all started--Ned discovering they were bastards because all Baratheon's, even bastards, had the black hair. Robert would have lived (at least longer) if Ned did not discover the true origin of the Joff, Tommen, and Myrcella.Cersei was already trying to kill Robert before Ned confronted her about her children; Varys came to Eddard before the Tourney of the Hand and told him Robert would die of an "accident" in the melee unless they convinced him to not enter (I realize this is an instance where book and show diverge, but on things like this I still generally assume they are more or less the same, by which I mean that Cersei was already planning to kill Robert soon, even if the hunt itself was a last minute thing). And Eddard can come to the same conclusion about Cersei's children from Baratheons having brown hair as opposed to black. Also, in the book (and I suppose in the show, too), it's not just the hair color of the bastards, but they also physically resemble Robert, while Cersei's kids don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7V3N Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Cersei was already trying to kill Robert before Ned confronted her about her children; Varys came to Eddard before the Tourney of the Hand and told him Robert would die of an "accident" in the melee unless they convinced him to not enter (I realize this is an instance where book and show diverge, but on things like this I still generally assume they are more or less the same, by which I mean that Cersei was already planning to kill Robert soon, even if the hunt itself was a last minute thing). And Eddard can come to the same conclusion about Cersei's children from Baratheons having brown hair as opposed to black. Also, in the book (and I suppose in the show, too), it's not just the hair color of the bastards, but they also physically resemble Robert, while Cersei's kids don't.Yes, but I feel like that is an instance of Robet's stupidity. No King should ever enter a melee, regardless of assassination plots. And the point is, they should have just dyed his hair. It would have been no trouble at all and would have made it that bit more accurate than the book. Wouldn't you be upset is Melisandre had blonde hair? Or if Ygritte has brown hair? It's just like how I get mad about Dany's eye color in the show. Purple contacts or even CGI Ilike they do with the wights would easily make it a little more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sparrow Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Wouldn't you be upset is Melisandre had blonde hair?Not really; I suppose it would bug me a little, but it would just be a nitpick.Or if Ygritte has brown hair?That I couldn't care less about. Superficial changes like these are just not important to me.It's just like how I get mad about Dany's eye color in the show. Purple contacts or even CGI Ilike they do with the wights would easily make it a little more accurate.This makes you mad? Seriously? I had guessed that maybe they wouldn't bother with the Targaryens having purple eyes, just because I thought they might think it looked silly, and too typically fantasy-ish. The only reason that it would've been cool if they had done it is that it marks the Targs (even though they're not the only ones who have that gene), so it comes into play regarding Young Griff/Aegon and his claim. But, really, this types of things: names, eye color, hair color, they're just pretty trivial, they're not really what I consider important in regards to what makes for good storytellilng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7V3N Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Not really; I suppose it would bug me a little, but it would just be a nitpick.That I couldn't care less about. Superficial changes like these are just not important to me.This makes you mad? Seriously? I had guessed that maybe they wouldn't bother with the Targaryens having purple eyes, just because I thought they might think it looked silly, and too typically fantasy-ish. The only reason that it would've been cool if they had done it is that it marks the Targs (even though they're not the only ones who have that gene), so it comes into play regarding Young Griff/Aegon and his claim. But, really, this types of things: names, eye color, hair color, they're just pretty trivial, they're not really what I consider important in regards to what makes for good storytellilng.I guess it's just a difference of opinion. I want the show to be as accurate to the books as possible. Especially for things that would be no more than a minor inconvenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenchofTarth Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 No worries, soon your complaints about the actor playing Renly will become moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anwar Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 They tried to give Emilia Clarke and Harry Lloyd the purple eyes, but they didn't look very good on film and caused them too much irritation/pain so they dropped it.Martin himself said that he shouldn't have bothered giving every character specific eye colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7V3N Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 No worries, soon your complaints about the actor playing Renly will become moot.Only to be replaced by all of my other nitpicky complaints :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Dermett Corbray Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 In the show, Robert is a mountain of a man but looks well past his prime with his glory days behind him. Renly looks young yet unremarkable, ambitious and with all his battles ahead of him.Pretty much correlates with the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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