Valar_Morghulis Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 "Serjeant" is also starting to grate on me now (though it is a real word, and spelled correctly). I'm also giving bonus points to repeat occurrences of "niello" and "neeps," both of which I had to look up. On a slightly unrelated note, I've noticed quite a few fairly glaring copy-editing errors in this book, which is kind of a surprise because I usually associate ASOIAF books with thorough copy-editing. Makes me wonder just how fast the manuscript had to be rushed to print.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnemosyne Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 There have also been several barrel vaulted ceilings but I will forgive all so long as he doesn't use the word 'dugs.'So far, so good.Hah. I also noticed that we had many and more barrel vaulted ceilings in the first several chapters.*and, heh, I don't actually mind leal. I'll attribute its new prevalence to all these southrons we have as POVs in the later books. Southrons with their fancy, schmancy words. Northerners show that they'll give you leal service by challenging you until your dire wolf bites off their fingers, or some such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billford Stark Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 The word "jape" is used as much, if not more than the word "serjeant". It is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginor Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Does anybody else alway associate "vex" with the "Pride and Prejudice" BBC miniseries like I do? "Oh, Mr Bennett, this also very vexing"... I see potential for yet another cross-over for the makers of "Pride & Prejudice & Zombies"!GoT would have been Pride and Predjudice and Zombies if they had only kept Ehle as Catelyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan's Daughter Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I always thought "brusque" was one of his favorite words. It didn't show up in this book for a while, but when it finally did I thought "aha! there it is!" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezebel Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 why did i click this topic?? of course now every time i see serjeant, cadaverous and leal i have an inner "argh" +1 to him/her that said "whore" was grrm's favorite word. where do whores go?(edited for serjwhatever sp) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Bee Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Serjeant and leal etc are noticeable (especially now after reading this thread. I keep looking around for barrell vaulted ceilings too), but they're so much smoother inclusions than 'nuncle' and 'half a groat' in AFFC were. That was just painfully jarring everytime I read them.So far everything about ADWD seems to be working far better than Feast. It appears Martin was actually enjoying writing this, rather than the hard slog that came across for the previous book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzaku Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Serjeant and leal were pretty glaring additions for me. Neeps was noticeable as well. And it seems like every new breast in the last couple of books has a large nipple.It just strikes me that if these words are so commonplace in the ASOIAF world, they should have been widely used in the first three books, too. I'm sure he just hadn't thought of using them before, but then they should have stayed localized to new characters and areas when introduced instead of slapped into existing vocabularies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gertrude Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 I've now seen 'as useless as nipples on a breastplate' twice. Once is fine, twice feels forced or sloppy (like he forgot he already used it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doran Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 GoT would have been Pride and Predjudice and Zombies if they had only kept Ehle as Catelyn. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 He uses the nipples line 3 times at least. It's...ugh. Serjeant was pretty horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delete this account pls Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Serjeant definitely comes across like GRRM read a new book on medieval military hisotry, stumbled across the term, and fell in love with it. Which is fine, except serjeants have never been mentioned before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginor Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Serjeant definitely comes across like GRRM read a new book on medieval military hisotry, stumbled across the term, and fell in love with it. Which is fine, except serjeants have never been mentioned before.If it has not been used in speach (which I don't remember if it has), it is sort of more ok, but still jarring. You could explain it away as a descriptive term that the author uses about some position that exists in that world but is not called that in that world. However it doesn't really fit with the way the chapters are written in the point of view of characters in that world, and also that it is an unusual word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_In_The_North Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Why would you care about GRRM's favorite word? Words are wind. 7 times on every page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melicorn Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Why would you care about GRRM's favorite word? Words are wind. 7 times on every page.I'm starting to think this is one of the lines in the prayers offered to R'hllor by his leal servants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 There do seem to be certain words and phrases that are used often in only one of the books. I noticed Serjeant the first time I read it - what caught my notice was the spelling with a j.In Game of Thrones, I remember Tyrion always being called "my lord of Lannister." Besides GoT, I can't recall that phrasing again. There was something else in A Clash of Kings too, but I can't remember now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Wolf Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I don't remember seeing "hour of the wolf" used in any of the other books. In ADWD I noticed it used in Jon, Theon, Cersei, Barristan and Quentyn chapters. Obviously it evokes Stark parallels, but the Cersei chapter also mentions the hour of the owl and the hour of the nightingale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirazi Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Mummer is his favorite word, its in every chapter at least once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Time for Wolves Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 "Niello" is the word that's been vexing me this book. I don't think he's ever mentioned it before, and now every third chapter seems to have a niello-inlaid something. Apparently it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NielloYES.This was bugging me too. Where did all the niello suddenly appear from, why is everyone wearing it, and why didn't he mention it before?Also, abbatoir and hour of the wolf. Never mentioned before ADWD. That hour of the wolf, hour of the owl stuff really grated on me. On a slightly unrelated note, I've noticed quite a few fairly glaring copy-editing errors in this book, which is kind of a surprise because I usually associate ASOIAF books with thorough copy-editing. Makes me wonder just how fast the manuscript had to be rushed to print....+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordswench Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Neeps and the avoidance of any "new world" vegetables in the cooking is really getting on my nerves. Also, lamprey pies. Is there no other way to eat eels, no other kind of eel worthy of eating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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