koifishkid Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 It seems to me that Lady Stoneheart is allowing Brienne to prove her loyalty by sending her off to collect Jaime for hanging. If this is true, it seems very un-Brienne-like to allow Jaime to be killed, since she knows he has tried to keep to his promises to Catelyn as best he could. Is there any other possible reason she could be getting Jaime? What would Catelyn want with him other than to kill him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardSon Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I think its strange how Brienne face was covered. I suspect but don't have any proof is that she died but what ever she yelled out caused zombie-Cat to bring her back to life as zombie-Brienne. Hopefully that means zombie Cat is gone for good. There are already to many undead walking around.As for the reason she wants Jamie I don't know maybe its gearing up for a zombie Jamie next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blue Bard Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I sign up to the burgeoning UnBrienne camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podrick + Arya = Win Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 he has tried to keep to his promises to Catelyn as best he could.Yeah, and I am Frodo Baggins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QT3.14159 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Whatever she's doing, my guess is that it's going to lead to Jaime's rebirth as the third head of the dragon. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faint Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I assume she will take him to meet Catelyn at which point the latter will hold Brienne hostage while Jaime actually tries to fulfill his own vow for once. I'm starting to become more and more assured that Jaime, Sandor, and Robert Strong (i.e., Gregor) will all converge in the Vale, per Bran's dream. I'm even starting to entertain the idea that Varys and/or Illyrio will hire the Faceless Men to kill Littlefinger and thereby bring Arya into the mix as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAJN Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 My reading was that she agreed to help Catelyn and the BwB, and was luring Jaime into a trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAJN Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I assume she will take him to meet Catelyn at which point the latter will hold Brienne hostage while Jaime actually tries to fulfill his own vow for once. I'm starting to become more and more assured that Jaime, Sandor, and Robert Strong (i.e., Gregor) will all converge in the Vale, per Bran's dream. I'm even starting to entertain the idea that Varys and/or Illyrio will hire the Faceless Men to kill Littlefinger and thereby bring Arya into the mix as well.Wow, that's one of the older prophetic visions in the story, isn't it? I had forgotten about it, but now that I remember it does reference the undead Gregor pretty clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sawyer Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Ya, I think that the basic conversation was that they gave her the choice to collect Lannister or they'll kill her squire. They'll give him trial by combat (because that idea's never blown up in anyone's face before) and he'll have turned out to have gotten good fighting left-handed and kill Beric again and then Jaime and Brienne will then wander off to find Sansa. Maybe they'll remember that that Littlefinger guy was pretty smart and head over to the Vale to see if he's got any good ideas about where she might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JalenTigh Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Im sure she yelled out "Arya" to get UnCats attention. I dont think she is dead though, I think they are holding Pod and the other night hostage though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkloyalist Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Beric is dunzo. Breathed his last life into UnCat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Ya, I think that the basic conversation was that they gave her the choice to collect Lannister or they'll kill her squire. The choice was the sword (Brienne goes off to kill Jaime and fulfil her oath from way back to Catelyn) or the rope (death for Brienne). Pod's life was never used as any kind of bargaining position by Lady Stoneheart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Non-Human Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Is there any possibility of it being a false Brienne all along? I don't know, I can't see Brienne handing Jaime like that. And lets not kid ourselves, Jaime can't fight with his other arm. If it goes that route, it will be 'dead by trial,' not 'trial by combat' :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sawyer Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 The choice was the sword (Brienne goes off to kill Jaime and fulfil her oath from way back to Catelyn) or the rope (death for Brienne). Pod's life was never used as any kind of bargaining position by Lady Stoneheart.Ya, I just don't see her trading Jaime's life for her own. It's too out of character. GRRM didn't spend the entire series going on about how honourable she is just to have her dump that whole personality when things got tough. Doing it in order to save the kid, though, while it's still pretty much of out of character, at least has a spurious tie-in to a rationale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostdance Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I assume she will take him to meet Catelyn at which point the latter will hold Brienne hostage while Jaime actually tries to fulfill his own vow for once. I'm starting to become more and more assured that Jaime, Sandor, and Robert Strong (i.e., Gregor) will all converge in the Vale, per Bran's dream. I'm even starting to entertain the idea that Varys and/or Illyrio will hire the Faceless Men to kill Littlefinger and thereby bring Arya into the mix as well.Can somone point me in the direction of "Bran's Dream" referenced here? Which book was it? Beginning, middle or end of the book? I missed it and am now very curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoya Karsa Orlong Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I am hoping for Undead Brienne/Jamie making little undead zombie babies with golden hands who grow up to be absolute ninjas. They scour the countryside for wayaward Freys to bring to the nearest McMandrely's famous pies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guciomir Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I have a feeling that Jaime will face trial by combat and his opponent will be Brienne. Brienne will sacrifice her life during the fight , so Jaime and Podrick will be spared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you wouldn't know me Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I think that Jamie and Brienne might go looking for Sansa before returning to Lady Stoneheart, that way there is a final chance of Jamie sticking to his oath. Of course that would mean a lot of travel, especially in winter, and Brienne would be taking a risk telling Jamie about Lady Stoneheart. I'd love to see the look on littlefingers face if Jamie turned up at the Vale :L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em388480 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Am I the only one that thinks it's fucking 100% silly to make a promise to a zombie Catelyn, and then actually stick to it? Brienne should've sworn whatever she needed and ran for the hills. It doesn't matter what she thinks or her men think - they are all living on borrowed time. They are outlaws and wanted dead on sight by every high lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modehead Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 We see Brienne take Jamie away to Cat. We don't see them arrive at Cat.Brienne could, very easily, say "Dude, so, Catelyn Stark is there. She want's you dead. Also, she's dead. So, let's, um, plan something."I like the idea of Arya being sent to kill someone, though I always figured she'd be tasked with killing one of her family members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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