par Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 It is written that Jon, Arya and Ned shared the same physical feature(long faces and grey eyes) while all the other children looked more like their mother.There must be a reason for that, except that I can’t figure out what it is.Arya and Jon were especially close one each other, it’s true, but by no mean closer to Ned than the other children. Their personality is neither closer to Ned than the other children.In fact, Robb is the one who usually has the same behavior like is father.So what can it be? I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Baratheon Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 It is written that Jon, Arya and Ned shared the same physical feature(long faces and grey eyes) while all the other children looked more like their mother.There must be a reason for that, except that I can’t figure out what it is.Arya and Jon were especially close one each other, it’s true, but by no mean closer to Ned than the other children. Their personality is neither closer to Ned than the other children.In fact, Robb is the one who usually has the same behavior like is father.So what can it be? IGenetics! =O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohit39 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 It is written that Jon, Arya and Ned shared the same physical feature(long faces and grey eyes) while all the other children looked more like their mother.There must be a reason for that, except that I can’t figure out what it is.Arya and Jon were especially close one each other, it’s true, but by no mean closer to Ned than the other children. Their personality is neither closer to Ned than the other children.In fact, Robb is the one who usually has the same behavior like is father.So what can it be? II for one think Jon is much more like Ned than Robb is. The concept of duty, honor, very Stark characteristics. Robb i'm not too sure was like Ned too much. Yes, he strived to be like Ned, learnt strategy, diplomacy, like a Stark heir should at his father's knee. But his personality was tempered with a bit of Tully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime's Wench Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Genetics! =OI'm inclined to agree. Plus, looking more like your mother but acting more like your father is perfectly common.Having said that, I am my mother's mini-me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Baratheon Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 And I look like my father as do both my sisters. Genetics are like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 Please, don't be naive.The fact that GRRM tells again and again how much the three resemble one each other, and were different from the other means that it was not a simple genetical coincidence.By the way, what are the characteristic of the Tullys, and how are they refleted in Robb,Bran,Sansa etc...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Baratheon Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Please, don't be naive.The fact that GRRM tells again and again how much the three resemble one each other, and were different from the other means that it was not a simple genetical coincidence.By the way, what are the characteristic of the Tullys, and how are they refleted in Robb,Bran,Sansa etc...?Red hair and I think blue eyes. And I don't think it really means anything. Robb is very different a person to Edmure or Brynden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lummel Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Please, don't be naive.The fact that GRRM tells again and again how much the three resemble one each other, and were different from the other means that it was not a simple genetical coincidence...Without wanting to get into a debate that would be rich in spoilers I would say that you are right that GRRM is pushing those surface similarities and differences. Having said that as you read ASOIAF something useful to bear in mind is that what you see is not want you always get. The interior can be very different from the facade.It is important to remember this is a POV novel and the context of the observations. When Arya and Sansa notice and reflect about the Tully and Stark features we are reading the thoughts of two children with childish outlooks on the world. Those differences are hugely important to them at that time and their physical features will have a role to play in the futures of those characters...so keep reading :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohit39 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Not to mention, not every coincidence and seemingly suspicious repetition of certain words are of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cora Stark Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Without wanting to get into a debate that would be rich in spoilers I would say that you are right that GRRM is pushing those surface similarities and differences. Having said that as you read ASOIAF something useful to bear in mind is that what you see is not want you always get. The interior can be very different from the facade.It is important to remember this is a POV novel and the context of the observations. When Arya and Sansa notice and reflect about the Tully and Stark features we are reading the thoughts of two children with childish outlooks on the world. Those differences are hugely important to them at that time and their physical features will have a role to play in the futures of those characters...so keep reading :) I agree there is importance somewhere because Mr. Martin wouldn't lead us on for something as basic as genetics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentyn Baratheon Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It's to show that no matter what, Jon is a Stark. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkTagaryen Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 There is a reason I'm sure and nothing he does it just for the hell of it, but its the same way the Lannisters are all described in the same way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark bannermen Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I think that Jon could be the bastard child of Raegar And Lyana Stark, and Ned sees Arya as Lyana, People see Arya as different from the other stark children and Jon is close to her cause he knows he's an outsider of the pack. But.... Jon is also close to Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarak1ng Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I doubt there's some mysterious reason for their resemblance, that would be too Harry Potter-esque for my liking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJtheCrow Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Yes it would have been so much easier if GRRM made them all identical twins. One sibling looking like his/her mother, another sibling looking like his/her father...outlandish!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angalin Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 As this is the Still Reading subforum, no spoilers allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 OK, I wasn't aware that my posts were spoilers. It's difficult to know what to discuss since all the books are out already. Perhaps a forum for people who have read as far as Dance with Dragons? For the most part my posts were speculative giving interpretations of passages in the books. If this is not allowed, I can go somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 OK, I wasn't aware that my posts were spoilers. It's difficult to know what to discuss since all the books are out already. Perhaps a forum for people who have read as far as Dance with Dragons? For the most part my posts were speculative giving interpretations of passages in the books. If this is not allowed, I can go somewhere else.If you've read up till Dance with Dragons then you're safe with the general forums. And there is in fact a still reading forum for DWD with threads for each chapter :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fostofina Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 It is written that Jon, Arya and Ned shared the same physical feature(long faces and grey eyes) while all the other children looked more like their mother.There must be a reason for that, except that I can’t figure out what it is.Arya and Jon were especially close one each other, it’s true, but by no mean closer to Ned than the other children. Their personality is neither closer to Ned than the other children.In fact, Robb is the one who usually has the same behavior like is father.So what can it be? II get what you're saying, but Jon is more like Ned than Robb who is a capable leader but is more of a 'Family, Duty, Honor' kinda guy, while Jon is more of a grim 'winter is coming' kinda guy just like Eddard, as for Arya, she's not exactly like Ned but she does favor other fundamentally Stark quality like free-spiritness and hotness in temper, she is more 'wolf-blodded' =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRunty Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 That's just how families work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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