ASoIaF Elimination Game 34: Best quotes in ACoK

Leviathan I · December 29, 2012

She was the only thing that made me despise Jon's story. I was so happy when she died.

Jaime's Wench · December 29, 2012

She was the only thing that made me despise Jon's story. I was so happy when she died.

Why, because she showed that Jon was just as fallible as any other character in the series?

Leviathan I · December 29, 2012

Why, because she showed that Jon was just as fallible as any other character in the series?

No, because it was a stupid plotline. "He has to go against his vows to lick the pussy of the woman he loves bla bla bla" could you be anymore cliche? And then I really began to despise Ygritte when all she fucking said was "You know nothing", oh right, because the stupid ginger, gypsy whore is such an omniscient being.

brAnthelAstgreenseer · December 29, 2012

29 should be there

Jaime's Wench · December 29, 2012

No, because it was a stupid plotline. "He has to go against his vows to lick the pussy of the woman he loves bla bla bla" could you be anymore cliche? And then I really began to despise Ygritte when all she fucking said was "You know nothing", oh right, because the stupid ginger, gypsy whore is such an omniscient being.

Fucking hell, no need to get racist about it! I think you've misread Ygritte's character quite significantly, and therefore the whole culture of the freefolk, if that's your opinion.

As for him 'licking pussy' - it was about him discovering what his Uncle Benjen told him to discover before taking his vows, namely lust and sexual satisfaction. The fact he goes back to the Night's Watch afterward is testimony to how much he values his vows.

Leviathan I · December 29, 2012

Fucking hell, no need to get racist about it! I think you've misread Ygritte's character quite significantly, and therefore the whole culture of the freefolk, if that's your opinion.
As for him 'licking pussy' - it was about him discovering what his Uncle Benjen told him to discover before taking his vows, namely lust and sexual satisfaction. The fact he goes back to the Night's Watch afterward is testimony to how much he values his vows.

How is that racist haha? Anyway, you can draw whatever vague meaning you want to from it. I just didn't like it, or her.

TheCrannogDweller · December 29, 2012

No, because it was a stupid plotline. "He has to go against his vows to lick the pussy of the woman he loves bla bla bla" could you be anymore cliche? And then I really began to despise Ygritte when all she fucking said was "You know nothing", oh right, because the stupid ginger, gypsy whore is such an omniscient being.

A bit too aggresive, don't you think? JS is right, Jon had to explore his sexuality and the freefolk culture, and Ygritte was a great way to do both of those things at the same time.

ETA: And I think JS was calling your "gypsy" comment racist. And it was. Although I've no idea how you drew that particular comparison...

Leviathan I · December 29, 2012

A bit too aggresive, don't you think? JS is right, Jon had to explore his sexuality and the freefolk culture, and Ygritte was a great way to do both of those things at the same time.
ETA: And I think JS was calling your "gypsy" comment racist. And it was. Although I've no idea how you drew that particular comparison...

Equating a fictional person to a gypsy is racist..? He didn't have to do any of that stupid tragic love story horseshit. He could have just chilled at the wall talking to Samwell and shit.

TheCrannogDweller · December 29, 2012

So, this is where we are today:

1) This is Stannis Baratheon. The man will fight to the bitter end and then some.

2) I was trying to win the throne to save the kingdom, when I should have been trying to save the kingdom to win the throne.

3) Rhaegar fought valiantly, Rhaegar fought nobly, Rhaegar fought bravely. And Rhaegar died.

4) I’ve lost a hand, a father, a son, a sister, and a lover, and soon enough I will lose a brother. And yet they keep telling me House Lannister won this war.

5) Some battles are won with swords and spears, others with quills and ravens.

6) A bag of dragons buys a man's silence for a while, but a well-placed quarrel buys it forever.

7) My skin has turned to porcelain, to ivory, to steel.

8) No, don't, don't cut my hair, Ned loves my hair.

9) Jaime Lannister sends his regards.

10) You raped her! You murdered her! You killed her children! If you die before you say her name, ser, I will hunt you through all seven hells.

11) "Is there gold hidden in the village?" she shouted as she drove the blade up through his back. "Is there silver? Gems?" She stabbed twice more. "Is there food? Where is Lord Beric?" She was on top of him by then, still stabbing. "Where did he go? How many men were with him? How many knights? How many bowmen? How many, how many, how many, how many, how many, how many? is there gold in the village?"

12) "I dreamed of you"

13) "Only Cat"

14) "I don't know, wherever whores go"

15) Dracarys!

16) Sorcery is a sword without a hilt. There is no safe way to grasp it.

17) Thee'th not to be touched! Thee hath to be a maid, you foolth! Thee'th worth a bag of thapphireth! … Jaime? Why did you shout out? / Why did I shout out 'sapphires,' you mean? Use your wits, wench. Would this lot have cared if I shouted 'rape'? / You did not need to shout at all. / You're hard enough to look at with a nose. Besides, I wanted to make the goat say, 'thapphireth’.

18) Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. And some will lose more than the tips off their fingers, I promise you. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that.

19) "Do you know who I'm?/ Some dead man."

20) "The boar can keep his tusks and the bear his claws. There's nothing half so mortal as a grey goose feather."

21) You poor stupid blind crippled fool. Must I spell every little thing out for you? Very well. Cersei is a lying whore, she's been fucking Lancel and Osmund Kettleblack, and probably Moonboy for all I know. And I am the monster they all say I am. Yes, I killed your vile son.

22) "We will defend the wall to the last man!" "Probably me."

23) All these kings would do a deal better if they would put down their swords and listen to their mothers.

24) Demons made of snow and ice and cold... The ancient enemy. The only enemy that matters.

25) You know nothing, Jon Snow.

26) "Your brother was a terrible traitor, I know, but if we start killing men at weddings they'll be even more frightened of marriage than they are presently."

27)“Always keep your foes confused. If they are never certain who you are or what you want, they cannot know what you are like to do next. Remember that, Sansa, when you come to play the game.”

“What... what game?”

“The only game. The game of thrones.”

Those two I submit for reconsideration, because I don't think they are as important as some of the quotes that are left out of the list:

28) Kingthlayer... you are my captifth! - One Vargo quote is enough, IMO.

29) "Strong Belwas needs no tinkly bells. Strong Belwas needs liver and onions"

Here are those, who are still up for choosing. I've added 37 to this list, because some people don't want it in, but I think it deserves one more chance. I've also added 38 as a last-minute addition by Leviathan.

30) “Explain to me why it is more noble to kill ten thousand men in battle than a dozen at dinner.”

31) “Old stories are like old friends, she used to say. You have to visit them from time to time.”

32) "I have made kings and unmade them. Sansa Stark is my last chance for honor."

33) Weddings have become more perilous than battles, it would seem.

34) King Jaehaerys once told me that madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. every time a new Targaryean is born, he said, the gods toss the coin in the air, and the world holds its breath to see how it will land."

35) Now sheathe your bloody sword, or I’ll take it from you and shove it up some place even Renly never found.

36) “Valar morghulis,” she said, as loud as if she’d known what it meant.

“Valar dohaeris,” he replied, touching his brow with two fingers.

37)“You're mine. Mine, as I'm yours. And if we die, we die. All men must die, Jon Snow. But first, we'll live.”

38) "Have you nothing to say in your defense?"

"Nothing but this: I did not do it. Yet now I wish I had. I wish I had enough poison for you all. You make me sorry I am not the monster you would have me be, yet there it is. I am innocent, but I will get no justice here. You leave me no choice but to appeal to the gods. I demand trial by battle"

or, alternatively:

That is where you err, my lord. I have been on trial for being a dwarf my entire life.

I think this would be my last edition of the list. I'm going out of town in 10 hours and I'll be off the grid at least until wednesday. So, I'll do a final compilation of the list tomorrow morning (around 7 a.m. GMT) and if it's not ready by then, i guess someone else would have to finish the job.

And since I haven't shared my opinion yet, let me do it now:

1) I don't think 28 and 29 should be on the list, because they are both minor characters. We already have Lady Olenna's opinion of weddings, so I think 33 is unnecessary.

2) 31 I don't really care about. 35 is funny, but I can do without it.

3) Part of 36 has already been used, so I'm on the fence about this one.

4) I think 34 is important for the series, because it explains neatly the psychology of one of the major Houses in Westeros - so it should be in. I also like 30 and 32 because they show us two different sides of the Lannister psyche. And 38 I think should be included in its second version, because it sums up Tyrion so beautifully.

Jaime's Wench · December 29, 2012

Equating a fictional person to a gypsy is racist..? He didn't have to do any of that stupid tragic love story horseshit. He could have just chilled at the wall talking to Samwell and shit.

It was. Part of my family are travellers so I tend to get a little touche sometimes.

I want to kill 9 please. It gives me the shivers. :crying:

King Euron Swagjoy · December 29, 2012

My changes:

Strike through = Remove

Bold = A quote I would definitely keep

1) This is Stannis Baratheon. The man will fight to the bitter end and then some.

2) I was trying to win the throne to save the kingdom, when I should have been trying to save the kingdom to win the throne.

3) Rhaegar fought valiantly, Rhaegar fought nobly, Rhaegar fought bravely. And Rhaegar died.

4) I’ve lost a hand, a father, a son, a sister, and a lover, and soon enough I will lose a brother. And yet they keep telling me House Lannister won this war.

5) Some battles are won with swords and spears, others with quills and ravens.

6) A bag of dragons buys a man's silence for a while, but a well-placed quarrel buys it forever.

7) My skin has turned to porcelain, to ivory, to steel.

8) No, don't, don't cut my hair, Ned loves my hair.

9) Jaime Lannister sends his regards.

10) You raped her! You murdered her! You killed her children! If you die before you say her name, ser, I will hunt you through all seven hells.

11) "Is there gold hidden in the village?" she shouted as she drove the blade up through his back. "Is there silver? Gems?" She stabbed twice more. "Is there food? Where is Lord Beric?" She was on top of him by then, still stabbing. "Where did he go? How many men were with him? How many knights? How many bowmen? How many, how many, how many, how many, how many, how many? is there gold in the village?"

12) "I dreamed of you"

13) "Only Cat"

14) "I don't know, wherever whores go"

15) Dracarys!

16) Sorcery is a sword without a hilt. There is no safe way to grasp it.

17) Thee'th not to be touched! Thee hath to be a maid, you foolth! Thee'th worth a bag of thapphireth! … Jaime? Why did you shout out? / Why did I shout out 'sapphires,' you mean? Use your wits, wench. Would this lot have cared if I shouted 'rape'? / You did not need to shout at all. / You're hard enough to look at with a nose. Besides, I wanted to make the goat say, 'thapphireth’.

18) Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. And some will lose more than the tips off their fingers, I promise you. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that.

19) "Do you know who I'm?/ Some dead man."

20) "The boar can keep his tusks and the bear his claws. There's nothing half so mortal as a grey goose feather."

21) You poor stupid blind crippled fool. Must I spell every little thing out for you? Very well. Cersei is a lying whore, she's been fucking Lancel and Osmund Kettleblack, and probably Moonboy for all I know. And I am the monster they all say I am. Yes, I killed your vile son.

22) "We will defend the wall to the last man!" "Probably me."

23) All these kings would do a deal better if they would put down their swords and listen to their mothers.

24) Demons made of snow and ice and cold... The ancient enemy. The only enemy that matters.

25) You know nothing, Jon Snow.

26) "Your brother was a terrible traitor, I know, but if we start killing men at weddings they'll be even more frightened of marriage than they are presently."

27)“Always keep your foes confused. If they are never certain who you are or what you want, they cannot know what you are like to do next. Remember that, Sansa, when you come to play the game.”

“What... what game?”

“The only game. The game of thrones.”

Those two I submit for reconsideration, because I don't think they are as important as some of the quotes that are left out of the list:

28) Kingthlayer... you are my captifth! - One Vargo quote is enough, IMO.

29) "Strong Belwas needs no tinkly bells. Strong Belwas needs liver and onions"

Here are those, who are still up for choosing. I've added 37 to this list, because some people don't want it in, but I think it deserves one more chance. I've also added 38 as a last-minute addition by Leviathan.

30) “Explain to me why it is more noble to kill ten thousand men in battle than a dozen at dinner.”