ser naes yennet Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Gilly is Craster's daughter and Wife. Making her son a son to Craster and a grandson at the same time.but this is after the baby switch, so it is not really Gilly's, but Mance's and Dalla's. i have wondered this myself and no one has ever answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser naes yennet Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Who do you picture as the fatter man? Wyman Manderly or Illyrio Mopatisor the Yellow Whale, or whatever they call him from Yunkai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waymar is Back Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Gilly is Craster's daughter and Wife. Making her son a son to Craster and a grandson at the same time.but this is after the baby switch, so it is not really Gilly's, but Mance's and Dalla's. i have wondered this myself and no one has ever answered.yeah it really just doesn't make any sense but it seems like a pretty glaring mistake to me if there really is no answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBlood Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 but this is after the baby switch, so it is not really Gilly's, but Mance's and Dalla's. i have wondered this myself and no one has ever answered.Right... wasn't thinking with timeline in mind :dunce: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Yes, there is at least one:Oh now you are just friggin awesome. We already knew Theon's goose was cooked (assuming he even wanted it anymore). Now, I know the Boltons are going down too. The old gods just can't stand for that bs, can they? Thanks. Any more instances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 but this is after the baby switch, so it is not really Gilly's, but Mance's and Dalla's. i have wondered this myself and no one has ever answered.I think he meant because it will be raised by Gilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReekLeek Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 or the Yellow Whale, or whatever they call him from Yunkai?Yellow Whale> Wyman> Illyrio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I think he meant because it will be raised by Gilly.On that, what is Jon's long-term goal for the child? Is he ever going to know that he is adopted, so to speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 On that, what is Jon's long-term goal for the child? Is he ever going to know that he is adopted, so to speak?The plan was for Sam to tell his mother that he was his bastard so that her and his sisters would take Gilly and the baby in while Sam goes to the Citadel. I think Jon was just more concerned with keeping it alive than making long term plans. Makes you wonder if maybe Ned didn't feel the same way at some point. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 The plan was for Sam to tell his mother that he was his bastard so that her and his sisters would take Gilly and the baby in while Sam goes to the Citadel. I think Jon was just more concerned with keeping it alive than making long term plans. Makes you wonder if maybe Ned didn't feel the same way at some point. :)Well then, nothing can possibly go wrong then! :PAs for Sam, poor fellow, he is about to give his parents the shock of their lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Well then, nothing can possibly go wrong then! :PAs for Sam, poor fellow, he is about to give his parents the shock of their lives!Just his mom though, I doubt they will tell his father plus he's in KL anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 On that, what is Jon's long-term goal for the child? Is he ever going to know that he is adopted, so to speak?Do you think the SOIAF will last long enough for him to care (about 5 years)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Could Qorin Halfhand be Jon's Nissa Nissa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer B Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Could Qorin Halfhand be Jon's Nissa Nissa?I don't think so. Qhorin was killed with Longclaw, but nothing about the sword changed during the fight. Additionally Azor Ahai killing Nissa Nissa was a conscious act that AA did in order to forge his sword after he felt he had already been selected and knew he needed to face the others. Jon doesn't know who he is, despite us shipping, and killing Qhorin wasn't a consciously thought out act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Do you think the SOIAF will last long enough for him to care (about 5 years)?Lost Melnibonean used logic!Critical hit!It's super effective!Yukle fainted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father of Hosts Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Lost Melnibonean used logic!Critical hit!It's super effective!Yukle fainted!Heh, nice reference.I thought, that if anything, he might send for the boy after everything settles down, to give back to Val. Provided everyone is alive and well. That might be too happy an ending though lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Heh, nice reference.I thought, that if anything, he might send for the boy after everything settles down, to give back to Val. Provided everyone is alive and well. That might be too happy an ending though lol.Bran's final chapter will be seen through the Weirwood at Whitetree where young Aemon Rayder is praying for the strength to lead the newest batch of Wildlings. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrannogDweller Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Now that's not really a "small" question, is it? Mwahaha. :D Seriously though, I think that the Yellow Whale takes the crown, followed by Illyrio and then Wyman. For one thing, Wyman lives farther north, where it is harder to put on weight and i think he's pretty able to walk and even ride (despite his moniker).but this is after the baby switch, so it is not really Gilly's, but Mance's and Dalla's. i have wondered this myself and no one has ever answered.yeah it really just doesn't make any sense but it seems like a pretty glaring mistake to me if there really is no answer Yeah, I asked the same question a couple of months ago. The consensus was that it was most likely a mistake on GRRM's part - like Renly's eyes and Jeyne's hips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jory Cassel Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Seriously though, I think that the Yellow Whale takes the crown, followed by Illyrio and then Wyman. For one thing, Wyman lives farther north, where it is harder to put on weight and i think he's pretty able to walk and even ride (despite his moniker).nope, he has to be carried in a litter because he's too fat to ride, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 nope, he has to be carried in a litter because he's too fat to ride, IIRC.Yeah. In his conversation with Davos, Wyman himself notes he can't ride anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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