Røyksopp Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 As it is, I hate Rhaegar simply because what the fuck Martin, was there anything this god of a man couldn't attain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janos Slynt Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 As it is, I hate Rhaegar simply because what the fuck Martin, was there anything this god of a man couldn't attain?Well, he didn't manage to win against Robert Baratheon for example.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danelle Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Tywin decided Tysha's punishment, not Jaime. Jaime just went along with the story, and followed his fathers (and Lord Hands) demands.I wouldn't say self-involved. I would say he's arrogant, but I perceive it as false arrogance. He is a very angst ridden character in AFFC, and if you think that's annoying, than by all means, you are entitled to an opinion. As to when he lost his sword hand, the show does it perfectly: He was that sword hand. As he says to Brienne "The hand that flung Bran Stark from the tower, the hand that slew King Aerys".I can see where some of your points come from, but at his core, Jaime is not a bad person. He puts what he believes is right above what others tell him is. Only time he didn't do that was with Tywin, and I can't really blame him, since it was Tywin Lannister, and he was already furious with Jaime for taking the White Cloak.Really interesting points! Jaime Lannister, as a character he is too compelling and intriguing to be regarded as entirely good or evil. There is a reason why there are no men like him.Who will you never approve of no matter what they do??I think that the word never is too strong. There are characters like Dany and Jaime, who do things that are wrong but I enjoy reading about their character development, no matter what their motives or actions are. Still I do not approve everything they do.It should be noted that GRRM writes very interesting villains, such as Ramsay, Gregor and Littlefinger. I don't like them, the same way I like Dany or Jaime. but as antagonists to main characters, like Theon, Sandor and Sansa, they are quite intriguing. In my opinion, the only unlikable character is a boring character, because I love to hate even the truly evil characters and sometimes root them on in all their evilness.So, for me, the most boring character is probably Penny because aside from a creative death, I think nothing can improve the blandness of her character.I think that I agree in regards to the boring characters being the less likable.For me the most boring characters are the Sand Snakes. I don't think that their presence offers anything significant to the plot. With the possible exception of Sarella (who must be interesting, if she is Alleras) I don't care about Lady Nym,Obara, Tyene. Their arrogance cannot be excused and I can't help but compare them to other warrior women in the books. Asha, Brienne, Arya and the Mormont girls are by far more interesting and compelling than the bastard girls of Oberyn Martell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerolunar Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Beric. i find him dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slackylc Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I agree with those who said Balon.I came around on the Greyjoys. They are repulsive as people (at least Balon and bros), but I've come to enjoy them as characters. Balon is the only one who does not fall in to this category.I enjoy the Victarion-Euron bits much more than I enjoyed any of the other Greyjoys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnarofThenn Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I enjoy the Victarion-Euron bits much more than I enjoyed any of the other Greyjoys.This. Euron is one of the most intriguing characters in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
space Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 bran. his chapters are boring as all hell, and I feel he has "too much magic" and kinda takes away from the story...il throw brienne in that category as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor's Squire Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Dany. didn't like her much in the books, then the show just totally killed it for me. She's not just boring, she's infuriatingly incompetent as well, with a sense of self entitlement bigger than Westeros. blech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor's Squire Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 i don't even think it's a sexist thing either, which i was scared of at first, because I love reading about Arya, Brienne, the Sand Snakes, Asha, and pretty much most of the other women in the book. Hell, even Cersei is really entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dany Girl Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Tywin decided Tysha's punishment, not Jaime. Jaime just went along with the story, and followed his fathers (and Lord Hands) demands.I wouldn't say self-involved. I would say he's arrogant, but I perceive it as false arrogance. He is a very angst ridden character in AFFC, and if you think that's annoying, than by all means, you are entitled to an opinion. As to when he lost his sword hand, the show does it perfectly: He was that sword hand. As he says to Brienne "The hand that flung Bran Stark from the tower, the hand that slew King Aerys". I can see where some of your points come from, but at his core, Jaime is not a bad person. He puts what he believes is right above what others tell him is. Only time he didn't do that was with Tywin, and I can't really blame him, since it was Tywin Lannister, and he was already furious with Jaime for taking the White Cloak.looking away while an innocent girl he knew was innocent is just as bad as if he raped her himself. He could have convinced his father to let her go, just pay her off or send her to Essos against her will, or he at least could have tried. Also, he knew the truth, knew Tyrion loved her, yet went along with the plan anyways. He never shows remorse for this, maybe a touch or remorse that Tyrion is mad, but only because he's on the receiving end of the anger. He only shows remorse for his bad deeds when they catch up with him and he actually has to face the consequences. He's a terrible brother, a terrible son (sleeping with your twin,the Queen, can get your whole family killed), he's terrible in the KG (killed 1 king, routinely committed treason against the next), a really terrible father (not a single fuck was given for his kids until he lost his hand, he bangs his sister pretty much on top of his dead son's dead body!) Sure, he saves Brianne, but 1 good deed does not balance out a lifetime of being a terrible person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dany Girl Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Jon Snow. It doesn't matter what he does or who he is, I will never like him.not attacking, just curious if you don't mind sharing why? Does he just bore you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckthorn Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Stannis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys Sand Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Daenerys - I have tried SO HARD to quench my dislike, but she gets on my nerves, and HBO's writing doesn't help either...Cersei - DittoRhaegar - He may have been a good king, but he was a foolLyanna Stark - if she willingly ran off with Rhaegar, because then she is a filthy hypocrite, and hates on Robert for wenching when she runs off with a married man. But if she truly was kidnapped, then I have not problems.TyrionRenly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Theon Greyjoy.And the bastard Jon Snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65536ob Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 littlefinger for killing people who are loyal to him (lysa arryn, dontos hollard)ramsay snow for hunting womenstannis for killing renly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65536ob Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranbo Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Cersei and Littlefinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxspecific Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 There is no such character, living, who I will have a cemented opinion on. I like characters for a reason. Some I liked when the series began, others I liked as it progressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TepidHands Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Oh yeah, I'll never like Alliser Thorne. I hope he gets wighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusLloydAK Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Littlefinger is my least favourite by far. The fact he's clearly contemplating killing Sweetrobin is awful; albeit Lysa deserved what came to her, I wish he never killed her. Also, he betrayed Ned and Catelyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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