DaarioKnowsBest Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Why can't they support both sides?It makes sense for them to make a deal with all the contenders, a bit like war profiteering where you capitalize on war by selling ammo to everybody involved. Only this case try to get your loans replayed by making deals with anybody who may win the IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Balerion Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Braavos is anti-dragons, hence anti-Dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Braavos is anti-not having money hence anti-loser of war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I think you mean the Iron Bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I think you mean the Iron Bank.Why would bankers love/hate dragons any more or less than Joe Braavosi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Why would bankers love/hate dragons any more or less than Joe Braavosi No I mean that the bankers are the one who care about the money, like there is any chance that Dany will pay the crown's debts. All the Braavosi tho hate the dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 No I mean that the bankers are the one who care about the money, like there is any chance that Dany will pay the crown's debts. All the Braavosi tho hate the dragons.There's a great chance Dany would agree to pay a bill every month or whatever. Her credit score should be up at 800.What loans has she defaulted on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 There's a great chance Dany would agree to pay a bill every month or whatever. Her credit score should be up at 800.What loans has she defaulted on?Seriously? She will accept to pay UUUZZZZUUURRRPPPEEERRR'SSS and his dogs debts? And even if she magicaly has changed her mind, do you think that Braavos will forget its own existence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerys Ahai Reborn Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 There's a great chance Dany would agree to pay a bill every month or whatever. Her credit score should be up at 800.What loans has she defaulted on?But she would not pay the current debts of the Iron Throne, the debts that Robert, the usurper, made. Stannis agreed to pay those debts along with repaying loan for sellswords). Dany would pay back a loan for sellswords, sure, but she would never agree to pay Robert's debts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Seriously? She will accept to pay UUUZZZZUUURRRPPPEEERRR'SSS and his dogs debts? And even if she magicaly has changed her mind, do you think that Braavos will forget its own existence?Yes, she will have to accept a lot of things leftover from the uzurper dogs administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yes, she will have to accept a lot of things leftover from the uzurper dogs administration. Ok. Now I know you are kidding. But yet again do you think that Braavos will forget its own existence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Ok. Now I know you are kidding. But yet again do you think that Braavos will forget its own existence?No I'm not kidding, I don't think Dany can possibly destroy anything ever built under Roberts reign, anybody Robert hired, anything valuable Robert may have collected(weapons for example), dont think she will pardon every man sent to the Wall under Roberts reign, cancel all political moves made.It's a pipe dream to think one can swoop in to a place and replace every single thing with your own stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 No I'm not kidding, I don't think Dany can possibly destroy anything ever built under Roberts reign, anybody Robert hired, anything valuable Robert may have collected(weapons for example), dont think she will pardon every man sent to the Wall under Roberts reign, cancel all political moves made.It's a pipe dream to think one can swoop in to a place and replace every single thing with your own stuffYet is quite funny, and this is me putting it elegantly, to think that Dany will, if ever Westeros is doomed and she becomes the queen, pay UZURPER's debts. But I think that tou failed to answer to my question do you think that Braavos will forget its own existence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 No, I don't think Braavos will forget it exists.You are saying she won't pay the debt for no other reason than because they were usurper debts, correct?So why would she accept anything done by Robert? Empty all the prisons because they were filled by the uzurper dog, throw away all that food because it was collected by the usurper dogs!, toss these weapons into the sea because they belonged to the usurper, fire everyone that knows how to do an important governmental job because they were appointed by the usurper, I'll replace them all with new people who have no clue how to do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose The Weddingcrasher Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 But I think that tou failed to answer to my question do you think that Braavos will forget its own existence?He would give the same anwer that has been posted many times before, why areI you so eager to go there?As I posted previously, we can't really know what position Braavos/FM/Iron Bank will assume, since there are way to many factors. It will be up to Martin todecide the most plausible option that will make for the best plot.Wow, I was wrong, he actually ignored the question. Well, that's understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 snip Yes if she ever take the throne I am 1000% sure she will not accept to pay the crown's debts. But fromwhat you say they will forget who they are in order to support her. I don't see this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yes if she ever take the throne I am 1000% sure she will not accept to pay the crown's debts.But fromwhat you say they will forget who they are in order to support her. I don't see this happening.Literally none of that makes sense.No such thing as 1000%, even if there was unless you got some insider info from GRRM himself you wouldn't know.Forgetting who they are doesn't make sense either.If you are saying because they have a legend that they were founded over 500 years ago by slaves hiding from dragons that means they will still fight against a dragon owner no matter what I'd say you are still wrong.People want money a good economy and they want to maintain lives they are accustomed to.These things are more important to people than legends from centuries ago.Nobody on Braavos was even alive the last time Valyria owned slaves, some have likely already "forgotten who they are". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 snip I never said it is 1000% sure, I said I am 1000% sure. Tycho tells us exactly that they remember who they are. Braavosi hate dragons. So, the way I see it they will back up someone who they don't hate. Which is Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I never said it is 1000% sure, I said I am 1000% sure.Tycho tells us exactly that they remember who they are. Braavosi hate dragons. So, the way I see it they will back up someone who they don't hate. Which is Stannis.I will have to disagree with banking on bankers going with their emotions, that's seems utterly ridiculous to me. Business doesn't succeed when led by grudges and emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I will have to disagree with banking on bankers going with their emotions, that's seems utterly ridiculous to me. Business doesn't succeed when led by grudges and emotions. If only Braavos=bank and no so many other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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