Eat My Steel Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 Alayne Stone = a lain stone = stepping stone :frown5: Would it be a stepping stone or a part of something greater, as in a cornerstone of a building or a a piece of a puzzle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat My Steel Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 I love the idea of Sansa's name meaning that she is without her wolf. The Alysanne and Lyanna theories seem a bit weak to me, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellfoy Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 It's a bit weird that Ned named all his sons(and his nephew possibly) after someone, but he named none of his daughters after his dead sister I dunno, because of Jon I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I love the idea of Sansa's name meaning that she is without her wolf. The Alysanne and Lyanna theories seem a bit weak to me, though. Well, I did say the Alysanne one was crackpot. ;) I personally pronounce it Al ih san uh, so that's how I came up with it. But the Lyanna connection couldn't be more clear. Did you look at the various female names on the link JonCon gave you? Its filled with names similar to all three. Alys. Alysanne. Arra. Lorra. Arsa. Arrana. Marna. Lyarra. Sansa. Arya. And I can't find it right now, but GRRM has actually said the names are just supposed to be harsh and soft (Arya, harsh, Sansa, soft.) Or, if you will, the two sides of Lyanna. If you have some time, perhaps you could check out the parallels between Arya, Sansa, and Lyanna. They're both supposed to invoke her and it's definitely no coincidence that all three names end in a. Here's a good start if you're interested in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys' kitten Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 it's definitely no coincidence that all three names end in a. So is Myrcella a secret Stark? Taena? Asha, Osha, Ashara, Wylla, Myranda, Mya, Lysa? Tysha and Chataya and Alayaya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The -sa ending appears to come from their Grandmother's family (Minisa Whent). Lysa presumably got this for the same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 So is Myrcella a secret Stark? Taena? Asha, Osha, Ashara, Wylla, Myranda, Mya, Lysa? Tysha and Chataya and Alayaya?Yeah because they're all so similar and related to Lyanna. If you look up though, you might see the point that seems to have completely gone over your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys' kitten Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yeah because they're all so similar and related to Lyanna.If you look up though, you might see the point that seems to have completely gone over your head. I got your point, I just disagree with it. Lyanna doesn't sound any more like Arya or Sansa than any of those other names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Alysanne is just frilly spelling of Alison. Maybe Martin know one Alison/Allison.I'm so ashamed because I just realized this a couple of days ago after all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 It's a bit weird that Ned named all his sons(and his nephew possibly) after someone, but he named none of his daughters after his dead sister Per the TWOIAF family tree, "Rickon" is its own name, not a tribute to "Rickard". Both Rickon and Sansa are names the Starks have used before, but not for anybody particularly close to Ned. Robb, Jon, Bran and Arya all have reasonably proximate sources (or presumed sources). Given the way that Ned is still traumatized by Lyanna's death 14 years later, I'm not really surprised that he didn't name one of the girls after her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I got your point, I just disagree with it. Lyanna doesn't sound any more like Arya or Sansa than any of those other names. Yet they're in the same family so unless you think GRRM just pulled fridge magnet letters when naming the main family of the series, it's not a baseless statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wedding Cake Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I got your point, I just disagree with it. Lyanna doesn't sound any more like Arya or Sansa than any of those other names. You'll never disprove the Sansa/Lyanna "parallels", they've become a Frankenstein's monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 You'll never disprove the Sansa/Lyanna "parallels", they've become a Frankenstein's monster. I'm sure some are just reaching but many are apt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wedding Cake Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 When I think of Sansa I think of a stanza of poetry or song. It ties in nicely with the Song of Ice and Fire and contrasts nicely with Arya, or aria in an oprah. When I first read Sansa I could have swore it was a type of dance, but it is not. Sometimes I still think of Arya and Sansa as song and dance, but less so now that I've gotten to know Sansa as a character. In the throne room she showed how she can calm hearts and bring people together, and I like thinking of her as bringing people together in song and verse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6AQreUUyVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 That too: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/79076-arya-and-sansas-musical-nomenclature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wedding Cake Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 That too: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/79076-arya-and-sansas-musical-nomenclature/ I don't want to think of Sansa as a 'thumb piano', especially around Littlefinger :frown5: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haven19 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Maybe since she was Ned & Cat's first born lady, they wanted to give her a name that was unique. To be honest, there isn't much to go by when answering this question. We can only wonder. I don't think it has any traditional roots in the Stark House so unless they were naming her after an unknown character close to Ned or Cat, then it might not have any meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Maybe since she was Ned & Cat's first born lady, they wanted to give her a name that was unique. To be honest, there isn't much to go by when answering this question. We can only wonder. I don't think it has any traditional roots in the Stark House so unless they were naming her after an unknown character close to Ned or Cat, then it might not have any meaning. It does. There was another Sansa Stark years before. If we want to play with it, we could say perhaps Catelyn saw a Sansa Stark in the Winterfell records, liked the name, chose it and Eddard agreed/approved or vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dya of Oldstones Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I don't want to think of Sansa as a 'thumb piano', especially around Littlefinger :frown5: :rofl: Almost snorted my drink at my keyboard! On a more serious note, I'm actually a little surprised I don't hear more musical references in reference to Sansa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 :rofl: Almost snorted my drink at my keyboard! On a more serious note, I'm actually a little surprised I don't hear more musical references in reference to Sansa. "Life is not a song." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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