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  1. Colonel Green

    Who were the Tyrells involved in the Purple Wedding?

    The poison was in the hairnet. This is confirmed by the Ghost of High Heart.
  2. Colonel Green

    Who were the Tyrells involved in the Purple Wedding?

    Margaery definitely was in on it, as it's set up in the interactions with Sansa as quoted earlier in this thread, and logistically the scheme is too risky if she's not. Garlan, I don't know. Loras, definitely no. The plan itself is a workaround his hotheaded nature. There's no reason to involve him.
  3. That's not true at all. Firstly, the worship of the Old Gods is only practiced in the Vale among the mountain clans; the feudal society of the Vale, the culture that put Jeyne Arryn in charge, is Andal/Faith to the core. Indeed, the only two ruling ladies of one of the Seven Kingdoms in the Targaryen era (that we know of) are Faith-dominated ones, between Lady Jeyne and the infant Lady Cerelle Lannister. Cerelle, of course, didn't live to actually take power. Meanwhile, the North, the only kingdom where the rule of the Old Gods predominates, rejected having a ruling lady when Cregan Stark's granddaughters were passed over in favour of their half-uncles. Indeed, GRRM has been explicit that the North has never had a female ruler, unlike a few of the southern kingdoms. The idea that the Faith is more sexist than the Old Gods just isn't supported by the text.
  4. Colonel Green

    Why were Viserys I and Daemon both married off to Vale houses?

    Viserys presumably was married to Aemma because she was a cousin, and thus a strong marital prospect for a member of the royal family. While it's not explicitly stated, the F&B descriptor of Daemon's marriage (page 342) says that Daemon married "Lady Rhea of House Royce, heir to the ancient castle of Runestone in the Vale", which tallies with what I assumed: Rhea had "huge tracts of land", which would make her a highly desirable match for a second son who couldn't expect any particularly big holdings to come his way via his own inheritance. Probably she was the most eligible girl of marriageable age at the time as a result of her inheritance (which Daemon still attempted to claim even after her death).
  5. Colonel Green

    You’re Ned Stark: make marriage pacts for your kids

    I mean, they could, but it's pretty strongly indicated that that's the direction they're headed in. Ned himself literally states that he wants to take Arya south to KL with him because it's past time she learns about southern courts before she reaches marriageable age.
  6. Colonel Green

    You’re Ned Stark: make marriage pacts for your kids

    Sansa and Arya were both being raised for southern matches.
  7. The laws of hospitality exist precisely for situations where you give your word and meet someone you might otherwise be suspicious of, i.e., in war. It's a truce, and Westeros is much more dangerous for the collapse of the precedent that truces are honoured. False equivalence. And, among other things, Robb was there precisely to make amends for that. They rebelled in response to violation of the feudal contract and the execution of Ned on trumped up charges.
  8. The reason the laws of war exist is precisely to mitigate "the actuality of war and the suffering it brings with it". It is never, in the big picture, good for civilization to undermine them -- guest right is important in allowing there to be some trust between the sides when they meet, negotiate, make deals, etc. And, of course, it's farcical to suggest that any of the perpetrators of the Red Wedding cared about human suffering. They cared about cheating to gain advantage for themselves. Stevron inheriting would just stall it. The basic situation remains unchanged: a family that is much too large and has far too little family feeling, and Lord Walder is responsible for both of those things.
  9. Which has nothing to do with a "a particular hatred of bastards in general", which she does not have. Her initial reaction to Mya was about Jon.
  10. You clip off the context of that line: It did not please her; it was an effort for Catelyn to keep the smile on her face. Stone was a bastard's name in the Vale, as Snow was in the north, and Flowers in Highgarden; in each of the Seven Kingdoms, custom had fashioned a surname for children born with no names of their own. Catelyn had nothing against this girl, but suddenly she could not help but think of Ned's bastard on the Wall, and the thought made her angry and guilty, both at once. She struggled to find words for a reply. Her reaction is because Mya's being a bastard makes her think of Jon. She likes Mya just fine in the rest of the chapter, admires her competence, and even thinks her attitude reminds her of Sansa at one point. It's better phrased as that lords don't raise their illegitimate children at home as long as their wife is around. The lords you cite are either unmarried or widowers, generally. Non-Ned examples of lords raising their illegitimate children in their household while their wife is alive are people like Aegon IV and Walder Frey, i.e., people who treat their wives very poorly. That line is nonsense, and the sort of thing people use to justify war crimes (as, indeed, that's what the perpetrators of the Red Wedding are doing). The way Walder runs his household guarantees a civil war when he dies, as other characters note.
  11. No, they weren’t supporting her agenda. They were using her as a tool and actively setting her up to be destroyed later. Littlefinger, in particular, murdered Joffrey after putting him on the throne, precipitating Cersei’s own mental disintegration.
  12. She didn’t win their support. They both know she’s an idiot who is useful for their own ends, so they manipulate her. That’s not a testament to her political strategy. She’s not even aware they are using her. No, not really. She doesn’t have a lot of big picture agency (other than the decision to seek Cersei’s help in AGOT, the one time in the books to date that she’s really been in a position to actively shape her own course in a big way without outside instigation). Her agency is mostly in smaller moments so far, but she does have some in the escape plan — she has to choose whether to participate and weigh the risks, etc., of even meeting with Dontos. Compare it with the show, where she’s just dragged out at the last minute.
  13. Colonel Green

    You’re Ned Stark: make marriage pacts for your kids

    Not initially, at least, though you can argue that due diligence would have turned this up fairly quickly. Political!Ned would definitely have been gunning for the Joffrey match at the outset.
  14. I mean, not really. She only prevailed because Littlefinger and Varys wanted her to; if they hadn't intervened, Jon Arryn and later Ned would have won.
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    That one is interesting insofar as it indicates that the Rhaena/Garmund match wasn’t something the regents council cooked up.