Daendrew Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 unGod’s Children: The Old Gods and The New Revealed. We have only met 6 Children of The Forest with names and they are Scales, Ash, Black Knife, Leaf, Coals and Snowylocks. You know, what's funny… It just so happens that their names and descriptions closely line up with the Seven Gods plus The Stranger. And just as with the Seven, it’s only six of the Gods that get mentioned. The Stranger never gets invited to any of the best dinner parties. I know, I would be upset too. So here they are: Scales = Father, or the Father Above, representing judgment. He is depicted as a bearded man who carries scales, and is prayed to for justice. Ash = Mother, or the Mother Above, representing motherhood and nurturing. She is prayed to for fertility or compassion, and is depicted as smiling with love, embodying the concept of mercy. Ash may be how tree “Children” age. It is not only the equivalent of graying, trees turn to ash and dust such in sacrificing oneself in a forest fire that while harming the tree, ultimately helps the whole ecosystem. That is Mother's mercy. Black Knife = Warrior, representing strength in battle. He is prayed to for courage and victory. He carries a sword. Leaf = Maiden, representing innocence and chastity. She is usually prayed to, to protect a maiden’s virtue. A leaf has not yet “flowered.” Coals = Smith, representing crafts and labor. He is usually prayed to when work needs to be done, for strength. He carries a hammer. Snowylocks = Crone, representing wisdom. She carries a lantern and is prayed to for guidance.Snowy locks = white hair Night’s King = Stranger. An exception to the other aspects, the Stranger represents death and the unknown. Worshipers rarely seek favor from the Stranger, but outcasts sometimes associate themselves with this god Behold, The Seven. They look shorter than they did on TV.Do you worship the Old Gods, or The New?I don’t think it matters so much.They are the same gods. Finally a world without religious strife and GRRM makes them all the one untrue faith.We have only descriptions of two Children: Leaf: She has a woman’s voice, high and sweet, with a strange music in it like none Bran has ever heard, and a deep sadness. Snowylocks: When beckoned by Leaf she brought forth a weirwood bowl carved with a dozen faces, like the ones the heart trees wear. Inside the bowl is a white weirwood seed paste, thick and heavy, with dark red veins running through it. Snowylocks handed the bowl to Leaf to give to Bran to eat. There is a possibility that the names may be moved around to other Gods if this does turn out to be true. unGodliness Basically every major religion still practiced except The Drowned God has been co-opted into the faith of Hodor, the God of Winter and Night (not the adorable giant). R’hllor, The Old Gods, The Faith of The Seven, you name it. It is cynically to have very powerful organized religion do the exact opposite of what they preach. But then again, this is fiction. In The only other religions that have not been controlled by Team Hodor are the Lady of the Waves and the Lord of the Skies. They get small mentions but I think it will play a big role. The series is called The Song of Ice and Fire… but it really isn’t. It is the Song of Ice, Fire and The Ballad of the Air and Sea. Joseph Campbell wrote that “Myths are public dreams; dreams are private myths.” Team Hodor can manipulate flames and manipulate people. By influencing private dreams and their fires, Team Hodor can then alter the public dreams. How they control these religions will be explored in more detail in future posts. In my upcoming Ironborn series, The Iron Price of Freedom. I will soon also explain what I think Hodor actually is at the end of the Night’s King Revealed series. Previously we covered how Nymeria’s First Men were Wights/Deep Ones associated with Team Hodor, not the Drowned God. I believe that The Andals of our history books are The Others and we will get to that in a future articles in the Night’s King Revealed series. If The Children of The Forest are not the Children… then who are the Children? My answer to that is in Part 3: The Children of The Forest Revealed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blackmont Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The Children of the Forest are creepy. It is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcotron Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Ash = Mother, or the Mother Above, representing motherhood and nurturing. She is prayed to for fertility or compassion, and is depicted as smiling with love, embodying the concept of mercy.Ash is the stuff left over after you burn something. Either that, or it's a tree related to the lilac that's known for being very useful for making bows out of. (Or, I guess, it's a guy with a chainsaw for a hand.) Ash the character is described as having sharp black claws instead of nails, and dappled skin, and eyes like a carnivore. How does any of this have anything to do with motherhood, nurturing, fertility, compassion, smiling with love, or embodying mercy? Most of the connections are silly, but this one seems especially ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackFyre > BlackFire Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 unGod’s Children We have only met 6 Children of The Forest with names and they are Scales, Ash, Black Knife, Leaf, Coals and Snowylocks. You know, what's funny… It just so happens that their names and descriptions closely line up with the Seven Gods plus The Stranger. We have only descriptions of two Children The series is called The Song of Ice and Fire… but it really isn’t. It is the Song of Ice, Fire and The Ballad of the Air and Sea. You can't have it both ways man. There is no text supporting that the children we meet match descriptions of the 7 gods. Why don't you go write that book. You can't just make up a new title for someone else's work!! I'm all for evaluating a work of fiction and I will even agree that part of what a book is "about" is in the mind of the reader. Please just quote anything from the text that proves either of these assertions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 The Children of the Forest are creepy.It is known. I disagree. And challenge you to a duel. :fencing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 Ash is the stuff left over after you burn something. Either that, or it's a tree related to the lilac that's known for being very useful for making bows out of. (Or, I guess, it's a guy with a chainsaw for a hand.)Ash the character is described as having sharp black claws instead of nails, and dappled skin, and eyes like a carnivore.How does any of this have anything to do with motherhood, nurturing, fertility, compassion, smiling with love, or embodying mercy?Most of the connections are silly, but this one seems especially ridiculous. It may be the Ghost of High Heart that plays a role. We have only met Ironwood "Children".. Gremlin would be a better word, not the Children of the Weirwood forrest. I will talk about why in an essay on the Ironborn. Rickon will go with Manderly to the Gods Eye and we will find different "Children" than we have seen beyond the Wall and the House of The Undying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blackmont Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 YOU WANNA GO DOWN BRAH?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piccolo_Snow Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The only other religions that have not been controlled by Team Hodor are the Lady of the Waves and the Lord of the Skies. They get small mentions but I think it will play a big role. The series is called The Song of Ice and Fire… but it really isn’t. It is the Song of Ice, Fire and The Ballad of the Air and Sea. The lady of the waves, and the lord of the skies get ONE mention in the text that is all. The series is called A Song Of Ice and Fire. and unless GRRM suddenly decides to change that which i highly doubt, nothing in the text and or anything that is actually canon suggest otherwise. Also instead of debate on why you "Facts" arent actually backed up, you just keep saying ill explain more in next post, but when the next post comes, its the same. conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 YOU WANNA GO DOWN BRAH?!? What goes down, never dies. But get's another idea, posts longer, and harder to read essays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sharya Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 It just so happens their names line up with their physical appearances because Bran, Jojen & Meera couldn't pronounce their real names so gave them those nicknames.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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falcotron Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 It may be the Ghost of High Heart that plays a role. We have only met Ironwood "Children".. Gremlin would be a better word, not the Children of the Weirwood forrest. I will talk about why in an essay on the Ironborn. Rickon will go with Manderly to the Gods Eye and we will find different "Children" than we have seen beyond the Wall and the House of The Undying.Am I speaking to a random sentence generator, or does any of this have anything to do with how Ash has any connection to the Mother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piccolo_Snow Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Plus we know nothing truly of the COTF and so to put them into slots of the 7 without any factual based evidence is ridiculous you cant know things that are not corroborated in the text or from what GRRM has said. And now your suggesting that the Nights King is a COTF, where is any of your sources, you never cite sources to anything, you grab a few lines of text and say well this is what it means but you have no corroborating evidence so second source, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 It just so happens their names line up with their physical appearances because Bran, Jojen & Meera couldn't pronounce their real names so gave them those nicknames.... Where do you think God's names come from? How they do not look? Scales = Father, or the Father Above, representing judgment. He is depicted as a bearded man who carries scales, and is prayed to for justice. Ash = Mother, or the Mother Above, representing motherhood and nurturing. She is prayed to for fertility or compassion, and is depicted as smiling with love, embodying the concept of mercy. Black Knife = Warrior, representing strength in battle. He is prayed to for courage and victory. He carries a sword. Leaf = Maiden representing innocence and chastity. She is usually prayed to, to protect a maiden’s virtue.= not yet flowered Coals = Smith, representing crafts and labor. He is usually prayed to when work needs to be done, for strength. He carries a hammer. Snowylocks = Crone has white hair ash is the hardest one to connect. Maybe ash is what older skin or hair on a "Child" would be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename: Nymeria Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Plus we know nothing truly of the COTF and so to put them into slots of the 7 without any factual based evidence is ridiculous you cant know things that are not corroborated in the text or from what GRRM has said. And now your suggesting that the Nights King is a COTF, where is any of your sources, you never cite sources to anything, you grab a few lines of text and say well this is what it means but you have no corroborating evidence so second source, nothing. Why must you analyze everything with your relentless logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piccolo_Snow Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Why must you analyze everything with your relentless logic? Because I am all for theorizing, I love to read different peoples stuff. But most of the stuff is atleast corroborated but actual soruces. IE textual evidence, Things GRRM has said, all this is is conjecture, plain and simple. Then when asked for sources all we get is i will explain that in next post, and its the same thing, just a huge circle of conjecture with nothing to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcotron Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 One more quick question: Are the other more than three score children mentioned in that chapter a reference to the 61 other faces of God in the Book of the Sixty-Eight that the Andals worship with their 68-pointed stars, or is that too obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 Am I speaking to a random sentence generator, or does any of this have anything to do with how Ash has any connection to the Mother? This is the very last interaction I have with you if you speak to me like that you are blocked for good. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100224132735.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sharya Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Where do you think God's names come from? How they do not look? Scales = Father, or the Father Above, representing judgment. He is depicted as a bearded man who carries scales, and is prayed to for justice. Ash = Mother, or the Mother Above, representing motherhood and nurturing. She is prayed to for fertility or compassion, and is depicted as smiling with love, embodying the concept of mercy. Black Knife = Warrior, representing strength in battle. He is prayed to for courage and victory. He carries a sword. Leaf = Maiden representing innocence and chastity. She is usually prayed to, to protect a maiden’s virtue.= not yet flowered Seriously? Leaf actually has leaves for hair, Ash has ashen skin, Scales has...yes, scales for skin. By your logic, anyone with white hair would represent The Crone. Sorry, but your connections are weak and we've already been given explanations for their NICKNAMES Coals = Smith, representing crafts and labor. He is usually prayed to when work needs to be done, for strength. He carries a hammer. Snowylocks = Crone has white hair ash is the hardest one to connect. Maybe ash is what older skin or hair on a "Child" would be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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