TheCrannogDweller Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Politically it's the perfect move. Combining Stannis' fandom with Dany's fandom would be unstoppable. We would conquer the forum within the hour.Not really. You'll just force the rest of us to go guerilla Dornish style on you. :ninja:Why all the love for Stannis?That's like asking them why they like Diet Coke - it's delicious and calories free, but they don't know that it's secretly bad for them, because of the deadly aspartame-caffeine combination in it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Procrastination Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I am a huge Dany fan and I like Stannis, but I say No. Never ever please!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordouche Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Anything that involves Selyse being out of the picture.Arguably my most hated character in these books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 That's like asking them why they like Diet Coke - it's delicious and calories free, but they don't know that it's secretly bad for them, because of the deadly aspartame-caffeine combination in it. :)Died Coke :ack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponys123 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Fun fact: Stannis would be next in line of succession after Danny. :DFun fact: Stannis is the first in the line of succession, as it is derived from Robert - the Targaryens were simply cancelled out by the new oaths of allegiance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrannogDweller Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Fun fact: Stannis is the first in the line of succession, as it is derived from Robert - the Targaryens were simply cancelled out by the new oaths of allegiance.Fun fact: Robert used his Targaryen ancestry to claim the throne. Your argument is invalid. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Sin Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Fun fact: Aerys' crown was taken away from him and his decendants, as it was the case with James II. Thus, Bonnie Prince Charlie didn't have a valid claim to the throne. Neither has Dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gar Weg Wun Sygerrik Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 It might help unite the two warring fandoms . . .The only people less likely to come together than Stannis and Dany :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Fun fact : There are actually two separate lines of succession. And a marriage between Stannis and Dany would join them again.So stop bitching like children and let's start making babies to reunite the fandoms. It's a thread of love, not hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponys123 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Fun fact: Robert used his Targaryen ancestry to claim the throne. Your argument is invalid. :)First, Robert didn't use ancestry to claim the throne, he used force of arms. Jon and Ned were obviously unwilling to take the throne so they gave it to Robert with a cheap excuse. And my argument is very much valid, since if the realm accepted Robert as king, they have accepted his heirs as the successors in the future. And Stannis, not Daenerys, is Robert's heir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 So stop bitching like children and let's start making babies to reunite the fandoms. It's a thread of love, not hate.The fandoms will never unite, we will fight dany till the bitter end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 The fandoms will never unite, we will fight dany till the bitter end!Careful, or you'll upset your betrothed. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Careful, or you'll upset your betrothed. :PThats right, I geuss the fandoms already united? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrannogDweller Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 First, Robert didn't use ancestry to claim the throne, he used force of arms. Jon and Ned were obviously unwilling to take the throne so they gave it to Robert with a cheap excuse. And my argument is very much valid, since if the realm accepted Robert as king, they have accepted his heirs as the successors in the future. And Stannis, not Daenerys, is Robert's heir. He used force of arms to rebel against the throne and slay the Crown Prince. He used his Targaryen ancestry to lay claim to the throne. He could've easily said no, and saddled Jon Arryn with it (seeing that Jon was the man who rose the Kingdoms). Yes, Stannis is the lawful heir of Robert. But Robert, for al intents and purposes, is a Usurper, and to some extent, a kinslayer. The better argument you have is that according to the Targaryen laws of succession (post Dance of the Dragons), after Viserys' and Robert's deaths, Stannis is the rightful heir to the Targaryen dynasty. However, IMO, he forfeited that position through his part in the Rebellion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 In the end the line of succession matters not. The winter is well and truly here, all that matters now is stannis. Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 The better argument you have is that according to the Targaryen laws of succession (post Dance of the Dragons), after Viserys' and Robert's deaths, Stannis is the rightful heir to the Targaryen dynasty.No, that argument is flawed.Stannis has a Targaryen claim through his grandmother, so it's a female claim as well. And therefore, if you consider the Targaryen laws of succession, Dany comes before Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrannogDweller Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 No, that argument is flawed.Stannis has a Targaryen claim through his grandmother, so it's a female claim as well. And therefore, if you consider the Targaryen laws of succession, Dany comes before Stannis.Well, I haven't really delved into that matter in detail, so I'll take your word for it. Still, doesn't it go something like "all available males", without regard of the qualifying ancestor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Well, I haven't really delved into that matter in detail, so I'll take your word for it. Still, doesn't it go something like "all available males", without regard of the qualifying ancestor?Here ssm I told George that when he changed Viserys I from a son to a brother he created an error in that Baelor's sisters did not inherit the throne after him, George replied that women came after all men in the Targaryen succession after TDWD. Something interesting and neatly explains Daena and the rest not becoming queen.http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Comic_Con_San_Diego_CA_July_20_232/There's also the fact Prince Daeron's daughter was passed over and there has never been a ruling Targaryen queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrannogDweller Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Here ssmhttp://www.westeros....CA_July_20_232/There's also the fact Prince Daeron's daughter was passed over and there has never been a ruling Targaryen queen.It was more of a question whether their sons (and grandsons) can inherit, not the females themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 It was more of a question whether their sons (and grandsons) can inherit, not the females themselves.Its pretty clear cut, he said women come after all men.Also from the wiki: Since the Dance, House Targaryen has practiced a highly modified version of agnatic primogeniture, placing female claimants in the line of succession behind all possible male ones, even collateral relations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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