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  1. Word of the day winner! @zandru "perspicacious "
  2. Eureka!
  3. "Rosebud." "Apres moi, le deluge."
  4. @Prof. Cecily You see a little Scarlett O'Hara in Sansa. Yes, and in Dany too. All three survive by living in the moment, not looking back. Dany has a literary cue ("If I look back, I'm lost.") So does Scarlett ("I can't think about that now " or "I'll think about that tomorrow." ). Sansa doesn't have a cue, but she too can't look back. In contrast (to quote myself from a previous post, below), The characters that look back (Jeyne Poole, for example, and Scarlett's sisters) pay a heavy price.
  5. @YOVMO Nice insight into "Sansa the observer."
  6. Byron = Tyrek? I was wondering the same thing. As Joffrey's betrothed, there are many, many people who attended court in KL who would have seen Sansa often. She wouldn't know the vast majority of them.
  7. (X)NTP here (X = tested as both an E and an I, within 10 of neutral). Isn't it generally understood that typing those younger than about 14 is meaningless, as their personalities haven't settled yet?
  8. Lancel Lannister - Wouldn't it be interesting to read a POV during the internal struggles that led to his commitment to the Faith? He would be contemplating his life so far, so we would see his view of everyone in the Lannister family, of Robert, of Ned (who he would have observed as Robert's squire) and Sansa, of the High Septon (the High Sparrow & Faith Militant would be later in the story) and probably others we are familiar with. Myranda Royce - The only POV we have about the situation in the Vale is Sansa's - and her focus is narrow and uninformed about any of the Vale's players outside the Eyrie. Myranda would help fill that gap, plus be another eye on Littlefinger, Sweet Robin, and Sansa.
  9. @chrisdaw I love your thought processes and your posts and am totally sold that the "snow Winterfell and the giant" scene could be backshadowing - the giant (LF) has already destroyed WF. And Sansa's future must be as an end-game player in the Game of Thrones. But I am also totally sold that Sansa yearns for WF and her family, and her future must be closely tied to the fate of the North (although I have lots of trouble seeing what role she could play in the war for the dawn). And I'm also completely sold that Sansa's familial ties with the Tully's, the Arryn's, the Lofton's, and (by her marriage to Tyrion) Timmet son of Timmet and the wildings of the Vale, sets her fate squarely in the middle of Westeros - centering on the Riverlands and the Vale. In other words, the George has left aromatic herrings across each of these paths. Which ones are the red herrings? That is the reason I find Sansa's story interesting - just where is it going? That, and the murkiness I have in seeing how her story has any bearing on the looming Winter, the dilemma posed by the Others, the CotF, etcetera - unless her empathic powers are such that she can intuit what the Others want, and thus be a or the communications bridge.
  10. Arya hears voices - are they her imagination?
  11. Sansa doesn't ask what happened to Jeyne or to Arya or think too much about others who disappear from her life or when faced with terrible decisions and their consequences. It's a survival mechanism. Danaerys does the same thing. When faced with a terrible decision or consequence, she thinks "If I look back, I'm lost." Both Sansa and Dany are emulating their literary forebearer, Scarlett O'Hara who, when she must make hard decisions with morally ambiguous consequences (throughout the book and movie, not just at the end), thinks "I can't think about that now " of "I'll think about that tomorrow." Jeyne Poole looked back. Lollys in GoT and Scarlett's father looked back and couldn't make it back to living in the moment. Who knows if Jeyne could have pulled out of the downward spiral if she had been left in the tower with Sansa? Like Dany and Scarlett, Sansa had to walk a tightrope to survive, doing so by living in the moment. The difference between Sansa on the one hand and Dany and Scarlett is that the authors gave the latter two catch phrases to let the reader know that the character was pushing an event aside to focus on survival. Sansa does the same thing, but without a literary cue.
  12. This thread is meandering through well-worn paths in the Sansa maze. For a different Sansa analysis, I recommend this post from earlier this year: https://warsandpoliticsoficeandfire.wordpress.com/2016/04/23/dances-with-wolves-analyzing-the-martial-language-of-sansas-story/
  13. I forgot that the Whent daughter was the defending QoLaB - I was thinking about the Whent line dieing out. But you're right - if she was jealous - or if her parents were offended & took it as a slight, Lyanna's stay would be quite uncomfortable. If it was known that Lyanna stayed in the tents, that would have set tongues to wagging. But I don't think Brandon would have allowed it - it might interfere with his partying in addition to risking the reputation of his sister. IIRC, Ned shared a tent with Howland Reed. The timeline between the tourney and Lyanna's kidnapping/running off is not clear to me. The OP has the tourney in October of 281, Robert still in the Vale in the first quarter of 282, and whatever happened when Lyanna disappeared also in the first quarter of 282. So 3 to 6 months.
  14. Lyanna could have begun her stay at Harrenhal by traveling to the tourney with her brothers. They were participating in the tourney, and staying in tents set up for participants. Obviously, the daughter of Winterfell and betrothed of the Storm Lands would not stay in the tents. This could be the start of a stay at Harrenhal that was to have lasted until she had to travel to the Storm Lands. Since Robert went back to the Vale, the wedding had to be pretty far in the future. Her status as a ward of House Whent - who had no daughters - puts another light on the attention paid to her at the tourney by Rhaegar - by recognizing her with the garland of blue roses (which had to be pre-planned), he was paying homage to the host of the tourney.
  15. If she were sent to Lady Whent, that would put her at Harrenhal, so there'd be no need to travel far to "bump into" Rhaegar. I like that. But there might be some reason we don't know about why the detail of who Lyarra's sister married was added to the wiki. There's so many holes in the geneology charts - why add this detail about a House and aunt/sister about which nothing has ever been mentioned?