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  1. The Kentucky Licence discussion II

    Well I don't want to make this into a tangent, so I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this.   In any case it's not clear to me how anyone simply allowed to appeal to religious belief as a way of not doing their job and/or interfering with the jobs of others is acceptable in a society where Church and State are separated.
  2. The Kentucky Licence discussion II

      That isn't the point Stubby is making. Stubby's point is that there is a reason so many people have offered up logical arguments against the position.   You are, however correct that IF Stubby had made the argument from popularity it would illogical.
  3. The Kentucky Licence discussion II

      This is why I don't even understand how any of this Kim Davis silliness makes sense.   People can believe in anything, including the Prof Xavier religion I just made up in this thread. I don't know what is true or not in a definitive sense about the nature of reality, but I do think when it comes to government the maxim about only that which has evidence can be asserted applies.   (There's a lot of other stuff, like how we've known since Plato that no god can dictate morality, but it doesn't even matter for this.)   edit: On the subject of Natural Law, from what I've read it is basically a failure in philosophy to apply Hume's Is-Ought distinction. Even if we were to accept some kind of natural law, exactly what this entails would remain up for debate.
  4. Bakker XXXVIII: Where The Posters Are Damned

    Welcome Odium!     Well, my advice is to keep in mind the most important question that remains unanswered is Why Don't Dragons Wear Chorae? :cool4:
  5. The Kentucky Licence discussion II

      Nay my child, I sayeth  the Son is greater than the Father. Same with Jesus and Yawheh, Apollo and Zeus, and so it shall be with Wolverine and Professor Xavier.   In fact I think all fans of comics who don't prefer Marvel over DC shouldn't be allowed marriage licenses, so sayeth my god Professor X. You may just think of him as a fictional being but I knoweth him to be from a parallel universe contacting us through his powers and influencing creators to bring us scripture for $3.99 an issue.
  6. The Kentucky Licence discussion II

      Which one though? Odin? Ra? Thor? Krsna? Allah? Yaweh?   Seems like if this woman wants she could deny licenses to Hindus & Muslim too under this idea of freedom to infect government with one's belief in anything from Professor Xavier to Yaweh to UFOs.
  7. The Kentucky Licence discussion II

      Yeah the idea a person can interfere with secular government because they think a talking snake convinced a woman to eat a piece of fruit is ridiculous.
  8. Bakker XXXVIII: Where The Posters Are Damned

      Actually IIRC someone speculated the Inchies were human males? I don't agree, but who knows with all the time-space questions the book raises.
  9. Bakker XXXVIII: Where The Posters Are Damned

      Not sure what you mean? Are you saying transhumanism is what allowed the Inchies to see their damnation?
  10. Bakker XXXVIII: Where The Posters Are Damned

      Well in some Hindu/Buddhist thought as well as Plotinus there's the idea of an underlying One that isn't exactly a deity but more a sort of Ground of Being that precedes gods. Then from there comes gods.   It's possible both Kellhus and the Cish have anthropomorphized the One into something resembling the idea of Yaweh or Krsna/Isvara, a Ground of Being with a distinct personality but this is not actually the case at all.
  11. Bakker XXXVIII: Where The Posters Are Damned

    Can the Hundred act on other planets? Does magic make it easier for there to be Wights and Hell Frames and White Luck Warriors?   How exactly did the Inchies learn of their damnation if they apparently lived in a world where there isn't any obvious indication of paranormal phenomenon?   What I mean is yes they used the Inverse Fire to try and peer into Hell (or so the story goes), but why even bother making such a device? If there were religions and claims of damnation on their world that they ignored as they evolved and found no evidence, why did they begin to once ore fear such possibilities?   Did their evil reach such heights that they outpaced any other crime in history and thus made a topos? Or is it possible that transhumanism - the modifications the Inchies use - is also worthy of damnation? Or was it altering the brains of ensouled beings, which pissed off the gods because an ensouled being reduced to the intellect animal is granted Oblivion?   It seems that having the capacity for self-awareness, which may or not be a "pinching off" of the God's own personality into yet another delusion of individuality, is what makes "souls" and what feeds the Ciphrang and Hundred. Perhaps editing sentient brains to lose enough self-awareness makes them less tasty or even spares them from damnation.
  12. Favorite Quotes 2

    “I think that the reader should enrich what he is reading. He should misunderstand the text; he should change it into something else.” ― Jorge Luis Borges   “Fame is a form, perhaps the worst form, of incomprehension.” ― Jorge Luis Borges
  13. Bakker XXXVIII: Where The Posters Are Damned

    Could total recollection be the key to oblivion and thus release from damnation, and this is why the Hundred drive people to hate sorcerers? Does total recollection erase the troublesome "I" by eliminating all ignorance (if we assume the individual soul-self in the Bakkerverse is mere[ly] a matter of Self-deception on the part of God)?   Consider this teaching which supposedly allowed Bahiya, who was not a monk, to reach enlightenment in mere seconds ->   "Then, Bāhiya, you should train yourself thus: In reference to the seen, there will be only the seen. In reference to the heard, only the heard. In reference to the sensed, only the sensed. In reference to the cognized, only the cognized. That is how you should train yourself. When for you there will be only the seen in reference to the seen, only the heard in reference to the heard, only the sensed in reference to the sensed, only the cognized in reference to the cognized, then, Bāhiya, there is no you in connection with that. When there is no you in connection with that, there is no you there. When there is no you there, you are neither here nor yonder nor between the two.   This, just this, is the end of suffering."   -Buddha
  14. Bakker XXXVIII: Where The Posters Are Damned

    Hmm I do wonder if the wracu can't fly without magical assistance.   Maybe not quite the same as walking an echo of the ground, perhaps an echo of the air itself to make an atmosphere capable of allowing them flight?
  15. Bakker XXXVIII: Where The Posters Are Damned

    I'm confident it will be published.   Maybe the extra time is being used to figure out the Dragon-Chorae Conundrum.