Boss Wyman Manderly Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Why would a Greyjoy name his son after Theon Stark instead of something more ironborn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Theon wasn`t named after Stark king. They just have the same name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 No clue. Maybe Balon read up on him and liked the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yolkboy Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 AerONBalONVictariONEurONTheONthere's a Greyjoy theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 AerONBalONVictariONEurONTheONthere's a Greyjoy theme.And Targ come to think of it.AemONAegONDaerONDaemON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flig Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 And Targ come to think of it.AemONAegONDaerONDaemONOh shit, all the Greyjoys are secret Targs.Or are all the Targaryens secret Greyjoys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Just because they have the same name that doesnt necessarily mean he named his son after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Oh shit, all the Greyjoys are secret Targs.Or are all the Targaryens secret Greyjoys?You know full well that now that you have said that, it will pop up. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northbound Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 And Targ come to think of it.AemONAegONDaerONDaemONOh lawd! The Greyjoys are the lost Targ line!! :cool4: As for Theon's name, I doubt it was after a Stark. The Ironborn, seem to have their own identity and are very proud of it. Could the name Theon, just be a more common name, the further north you travel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flig Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 You know full well that now that you have said that, it will pop up. :)And so it begins...muahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrish Swamp Thing Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I think the Iron Islands have a bit in common culturally with the North. At least more than with the rest of the continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danelle Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 In DWD Theon thinksTheon Stark, the Hungry Wolf. My namesake. He too ponders on the fact that he bears the name of a King In The North.I think that namesake means that someone is named after someone else and sometimes there is another meaning that two people share the same name.I cannot think why would Balon or Alannys name their a child after an infamous Stark King.I think the Iron Islands have a bit in common culturally with the North. At least more than with the rest of the continent.This is quite plausible.On the other hand, perhaps GRRM meant it as an irony, given the fact that Theon was an Ironborn in the North and a Northman in the Iron Islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Nastja Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 IMO, he was not named after Theon Stark. I just think that Balon chose the name because he may have liked it and it had a Greyjoy theme: TheON, as others have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Just because they have the same name that doesnt necessarily mean he named his son after him.isnt that what namesake means though? That it was intentional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valandui Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I think the Iron Islands have a bit in common culturally with the North. At least more than with the rest of the continent.This is correct. They're both descended from the First Men. If you look through both houses' genealogies you'll see a lot of similar names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 isnt that what namesake means though? That it was intentional?No, not always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 isnt that what namesake means though? That it was intentional?But I dont think it was intentional. Not in this case anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dornishman's Wife Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I think that namesake means that someone is named after someone else and sometimes there is another meaning that two people share the same name.Exactly, and that is the original usage, even though contemporary (mostly) American usage has shifted the meaning of namesake towards the meaning of "the guy that someone was named for". GRRM uses the original meaning at other places (the "namesakes" that are mentioned are often actually younger and thus couldn't be the reasons for the name at all), so I assume he does here too.[King Robert] sighed deeply. "The boy is my namesake, did you know that? Robert Arryn."Time travel paradoxon embarrasment.... or your namesake isn't necessarily the one you're named for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxspecific Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I think the Iron Islands have a bit in common culturally with the North. At least more than with the rest of the continent.Hmm this is something I have always pondered. The two races seemed so damn similar; they laugh when their fingers get chopped off after they rough house at parties and feasts, they're known as tough and live in harsh climates.They should make an alliance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Not Appearing Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 isnt that what namesake means though? That it was intentional?No, not always.But in this specific case, given the quote provided and directness of it, I would tend towards that it does.Exactly, and that is the original usage, even though contemporary (mostly) American usage has shifted the meaning of namesake towards the meaning of "the guy that someone was named for". GRRM uses the original meaning at other places (the "namesakes" that are mentioned are often actually younger and thus couldn't be the reasons for the name at all), so I assume he does here too.... or maybe I'm wrong. Could you give examples of where he refers to other namesakes in the series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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