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  1. Unless some ill befell Maegor and his family. We still need to explain Varys motivations during Aerys reign, but of course other possibilities exist. True. Thing is Brightflame starts to be mentioned at the same time that the Blackfyres which gives an structural argument that the former should play an important role too. But where are they? There is also Moqorro prophecy that Tyrion has met/going to meet six dragons. He has met three we know of. Jon, Aemon and Aegon. But who is the "bright" dragon? Tyrion has met Varys, so it's a possibility. Tyrion is likely going to meet Marwyn, so it's another. Some have suggested Daario too, maybe a grandson?, but I don't find him significant enough yet. Yeah, I don't think we need anything of that sort to explain Littlefinger
  2. That's why I said it depends on political considerations. If the last Gardener king and his sons had been hit by a truck instead by dragonfire, any hypothetical daughter would have continued with the name. But Aegon the Conqueror was not about to allow that. You can think on similar scenarios for your examples, but I don't think that a female line can claim the name after a few generations. Which of course has implications for any Blackfyre conspiracy in the series. Again, Serra had the right age to be daughter of Maelys.
  3. Interesting. Do you have a link? I've been re reading D&E after a long time and I love them. They are both simple and profound stories. I wondered why GRRM hasn't finished them because they are relatively short and don't have the complex plot of the main series. They are more straightforward. Think on the "she wolves of Wintwrfell". It should be almost done! I guess it has to do with details that affect the main series and our writer is still undecided about them.
  4. That's not true House Targaryen lives trough the female line and any eventual son of Dany would bear that name If the tales about Bael are true, House Stark was dead in the male line Unless Jorah is restored, House Mormont continues through the female line. Asha will probably continue the Greyjoy name. Etc. It seems to me that the adoption of the mother name depends more on political considerations rather than some strict rules. I always liked that idea which would explain his influence over the GC, but didn't GRRM shut it down for good?
  5. Indeed. It's not only then. It's actually GRRM telling us that we should look at the female line. Not necessarily. The first captain general wa Bittersteel, not a Blackfyre. In fact, becoming captain general would be an extra burden for any claimant who should be more preoccupied with making political alliances that help him to gain the throne instead fighting against Myr or Volantis. Like a certain boy who goes by the name of young Griff?
  6. None indeed. It is a case for the King to jugde. That's why Tywin had a casus belli on this issue.
  7. We also cannot rule out that Pentos as society hasn't evolved from an aristocratic one to a semi republic during that time frame. It seems that many of the Free Cities only keep the valyrian social structure more as a tradition, with the rich merchants holding the actual power.
  8. Well thw shivers, greyscale and spring sickness may well having magical origins.
  9. No idea. And he is not the only one. We also have the Redwyne twins, Jalabhar Xho and maybe others who have been hanging since book one and hardly getting some characterization or speak on screen.
  10. Welcome to the forum 1.- Please make the title more descriptive. I really thought you were in some kind of emergency. 2.- There is a thread for small questions https://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/153070-small-questions-v-10106/ 3.- I've no idea. Tyrion learns in ACOK that Theon took Winterfell and later that he "killed" Bran and Rickon. It is possible that the news started to spread. Otherwise, maybe Tyrion told her after their weeding or the Tyrells before that or Littlefinger after her escape.
  11. Jorah was the hero of the day during that time. Not only he wasvery distinguished during the Greyjoy Rebellion but also had a stellar performance at the Tourney of Lannisport, where even the World's Champion Jaime Lannister couldn't defeat him. He was knighted by Robert himself on front of everybody. The Hightowers on the other hand were supporters of Aerys. I wouldn't be surprised if they had to pay a hefty sum to the the crown as part of getting their pardon. Probably Jorah didn't ask for much a dowry and Jorah was a lord in his own from a old and noble house, with supposedly good contact to the new political powers in Westeros. I don't find the match unbelievable.
  12. Indeed. Even one of the prostitutes (Marie?) working at Alayaya might be Tywin's bastard.
  13. All of above, but it also might be that the Children as a culture are not easily willing to fight. Look at this quote I found recently. "Men would not be sad. Men would be wroth. Men would hate and swear a bloody vengeance. The singers sing sad songs, where men would fight and kill. " Bran III, ADWD.
  14. Probably did happen. A lot of formal events happened offscreen. - crowing of Joffrey - crowning of Tommen - crowning of Stannis - crowning of Robb - we don't have accounts of Robert crowning and weeding to Cersei. Etc.
  15. My opinion on the matter is the following, but as everything is speculative. Whoever leads the Tyrell army descending to Storm's End is going to defeat Aegon. Maybe he gets injured. Why? - Aegon is insisting in leading the army (specially after the victory in taking the castle) instead of leaving that task to a more experienced man like JonCon. - If the Tyrells just "bend the knee" after a defeat, Aegon does not need - urgently - the Dornish support (something they consider as granted) and does not need to marry Arianne then and there. He can still wait for Dany. - A protracted siege helps better the story, allowing to events at KL and the Reach to mature making the besiegers more desperate. Imagine from the point of the besiegers. Tommen is dead making the whole marriage with Margaery pointless (maybe she is also dead?). Two Dornish armies are descending upon them. Without a sea blockade the Golden Company continues to be re-supplied at Storm's End. Dire news arrive each day from the Reach: the slaughter of the Redwyne fleet, fall of the Arbor and even Oldtown. Why should they continue to fight someone who claims not to be your enemy?
  16. Let's not forget here that the Golden Company at Storm's End is at best half their full strength as many fighters were landed in many islands around Cape Wrath and even at the Stepstones. They also left contingents at the many castles they captured. This should play a role.
  17. Neither Stannis nor Cressen were there. But we know that the Royal Fleet anchored at Dragon Stone ceased to exist. Stannis was building ships to deal with that said fleet. Without that fleet, Stannis didn't need to build its own. Nobody questions the legitimacy of Daenerys, really. She has dragons, the trademark of the Targaryens. Aegon on the other hand, has none. And we see Varys (and Illyrio) trying to work out the events so that people are too busy to really question his parentage.
  18. There are more direwolves north of the Wall. The ones featured in the story were just born from their mother, south of the Wall (an event never fully explained), which means she was fertilized by a male direwolf. According to Leaf: BTW, I really like the next quote "She seemed sad when she said it, and that made Bran sad as well. It was only later that he thought, Men would not be sad. Men would be wroth. Men would hate and swear a bloody vengeance. The singers sing sad songs, where men would fight and kill." Added to my signature
  19. Excellent account. I disagree about that Davos has "no lands", when the text is explicit about Stannis (through Robert?) giving him "choice lands". But indeed, there are very few non-noble PoV. This is one of the reasons I like D&E tales. a random farm boy, probably not, but a farm boy whose parents where killed by the Mountain and later joined tBwB, maybe? It could tell us a story. and what about complementing Dany's Essos journey with Missandei and/or Grey Worm PoV? Or some Dothraki? Criticizing the excessive GRRM's focus on nobility is fair. I think there is a problem (and it's not the only one) Before the asoiaf series, I read "The Sarantine Mosaic" by G. G. Kay, a story contemporary to GRRM's, which also features some deconstruction of fantasy. The story is basically the Byzantine empire under Justinian, with some spins and different names. You have access there to the thoughts of the emperor and the empress, a queen, a king of kings. But there are also commoners, artists, slaves, physician, etc as "PoV" who also influence the events. In fact the protagonist is the artist. I truly recommend it. Finally, one thing about asoiaf POV's is that they are rarely the ones who are moving the pieces on the game. They are there, trying to to control and build their own story, despite they are others who set the rules.
  20. May depend on the exact geography around KL. It may well be that the south side of the Blackwater is full of marshes whereas the north side is more rocky and sloped. ETA: Actually that there are three hills relatively close to the river is indication of the later. There relatively old cities, though, that are located at the end of estuaries: Lisbon, Bilbao, Gothenburg, St. Petersburg, Shangai etc. Venice is in a Lagoon and prone to flooding. The reasons and conditions differ.
  21. Oh yeah, certainly. It is a good point that someone made in this forum. It is the only reason I can think of why Areo was sent away, exactly when things are getting interesting for the Dorne subplot and we do not get a PoV around Doran. It must be because there is something even more important to describe. I don't think I've been the first to say that, but it's worth repeating because the issue of Darkstar (the clumsiest written character in the novels) comes back from time to time.
  22. Because after scrapping the 5 year gap, Ned Dayne turned out to be too young to fulfill his intended role.
  23. She was probably not allowed Not allowed. Her guards swore an oath. This is exactly one of the mysteries of the series and part of the discussion of the Tower of Joy events. When Ned asked them WTF are they doing there, they just answer that they swore an oath. Which is plainly not the oath to Aerys. All of this tells you more about the men in the ToJ than about the events surrounding it. The servants were probably from the Dayne household and apparently they reached to an agreement as we see from the stories from Ned Dayne. Regarding, why nobody asked more questions you need to put in the context of the aftermath of a bloody civil war, where lots of people lost relatives. Others came back with bastards in their own. Rebels and loyalists exchanges places and everybody was trying to either save his ass or to gain advantage of the new political situation. That one lord got a bastard might have been news of little importance and Ned did a very Ned thing. He brought him to Winterfell for all the North to see.
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