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  1. Unfortunately, from what I read recently, I tend to agree. It is then of uttermost importance 1) to identify risk factors (and population), 2) to come up with some sort of prophylaxis that reduce the risk of complications 3) a clear treatment (and testing) that can be performed at home at the onset of the symptoms that reduce the risk of said complications
  2. BTW. Trump might be right after all https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4783265/#idm140593194609520title
  3. Intellectual property is a gentlemen's agreement that is going to be ditched as soon as governments find it necessary. It someone tries to use IP as a leverage tool against others countries, the said countries are going to start copying any prospective medicine a split of second after.
  4. People don't get that Trump has mind of a spoiled 4 yo. If you go to a briefing with him you need to explain things like you are treating with a spoiled 4 yo. You need to avoid difficult topics and provide clear and safe advice. For example if you explain that bleach kills the virus in surfaces, a 4 yo might think that he stumbled on the disease's cure. If you explain that sunlight vitamin D might have a role in the progression of the disease, a 4 yo might think that it's a good idea to irradiate the lungs with UV light. These are difficult concepts not suitable for 4 yo children! I'd suggest to make sure that a good number of child care workers are part of the WH staff.
  5. Ventilators do not help much, it seems https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494260-almost-all-covid-19-patients-on-ventilators-in-new-york-health-system
  6. In Europe they estimate that half of the deaths comes from nursery homes https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-latest-half-of-european-deaths-were-in-nursing-homes/a-53213299 Of course, they are probably still undercounting.
  7. Fully agree. Let's not discount stress, depression and anxiety. Furthermore. There's a complete lack of information what one can do to help to get better outcomes in case one gets infected. Probably because nobody really knows.
  8. We will know one day but not today. There are few weird things I've been observing. - Spain and Italy are not yet really over the curve as the number of active cases is still increasing (albeit at a lower rate), despite the heavy handed lockdown that they imposed more than a month ago. Their curves seem to extend forever. - Germany and Austria are recovering at full steam despite comparatively relaxed quarantine rules. - Chile in S. America is implementing localized and dynamic lockdowns plus a series or complementary measures. The curve is mostly flat with up and down depending on the day of the week What is going on?
  9. Yes, it's all over the internet and users are providing their own experiences with cases that *might* be COVID19. Everybody I know agrees that this winter the viruses have been weird, but if cases were so widespread as such early dates, we should have seen that in the hospitalizations. I don't know how to explain it.
  10. BTW. I think there should be more focus on investigating those who are asymptomatic or with very light symptoms. It seems to me that lots of effort is being spent on those who get really sick, when the key to fight the disease might be found in those who do not get sick. Also, since countries are reopening. We need better information about what can we do to - eventually - get better outcomes if we get sick and what we should do in case we do get sick.
  11. Data coming from China has been showing the same for a while. This is the first time I read that coming from a Western country. Do you have a link? Speculation was that nicotine blocks the ACE2 receptors in lungs. But who knows really. btw: hopefully you are fully recovered from COVID
  12. There are two problems I see. 1) Estimating the mortality rate during an ongoing outbreak is tricky because of the delay between case onset and decease 2) There is no "natural" mortality rate, specially during a pandemic. The mortality rate here depend critically on the capability of the health care system to absorb the serious cases and treat them accordingly (also protocols change as our understanding progresses). But once you health care is overwhelmed the death rate will sharply rise.
  13. I've seen a number of these studies. Maybe is the same source? I tend to be skeptical because it would mean that a huge number of cases are completely asymptomatic or very very mild, which goes against clinical studies. It would also mean that the disease is extremely contagious but actually not very dangerous, even for the risk population. I've seen more credible estimates that put the true number of cases in Italy around half a million or so.
  14. Let's not forget that Theon styled himself as "Prince" once his father donned his crown again. Asha is also called "Princess" in few occasions. Yes, Renly and Stannis not being princes is a contradiction with the dynastic rules used in Westeros.
  15. People often think that China is an all-knowing totalitarian state. This is far from the truth, otherwise crime wouldn't exist there. If live animal commerce is forbidden, nothing guarantees that illegal markets won't flourish, maybe in worse conditions and a similar scenario could have happened anyway.
  16. My apologies. I wanted to sound sarcastic but now I see that wasn't conveyed in my little post. Be as it may. Yes there is still scientific discussion whether the virus is indeed airborne. I tend to doubt it otherwise, the mess will be already orders of magnitude worse, but infection may happen that way in some cases. Nevertheless, the WHO assured the World that the virus IS NOT airborne, many outlets picked up the story and somehow deduced that wearing masks was unnecessary, creating unnecessary confusion in these very uncertain times and undermining containment efforts by several governments.
  17. Somewhere they want to use the positive pressure anti-snoring masks as substitute too for relatively milder cases
  18. Thanks for your account and glad you both are fine! Viruses had been bad this season. I had for new year some cough fits that lasted two days and were gone and then a bad flu mid February but it didn't feel like anything you describe. May I ask you which home management were you recommended during the disease? Like drink lot of liquids and stay warm? Something else that may help to avoid major problems? Some people are given inhalators, I read. Since I think at some point I'm going to get I'd like to be prepared but it's hard to find that information. For the moment I taking a lot of Vitamin C an D together with some echinacea pills. Trying to eat healthy but it's harder with sparse shopping visits.
  19. Yes, more or less, if we don't want them to die by the score. The thing is - from my limited understanding - that as soon as you loose the restriction, the disease will come back, fast. See the China, who have "defeated" the virus at an enormous cost and now they are forced to close the borders, etc. See the situation in Italy, and that is far from infecting a big fraction of the population so that the next wave might be slower, because immunity yadayada. We are making huge efforts just to avoid that a small fraction of the society gets infected, because even that small fraction will collapse hospitals, which is the main reason behind people dying. And I'm not talking only about the economic costs, which will be enormous, but also the human one. My original post was actually triggered by hearing my quite reserved neighbour crying loud. She is an older lady, maybe in her 60s, who gets visited every weekend by her grandchildren. You can hear her laugh in those instances. Now she cries.
  20. Tell that to parents who have to do homeoffice and homelearning with their kids. There are some who are desperate.
  21. United States officially surpassed China in the number of cases. Italy is still third but it's probably minutes away of becoming second.
  22. Then we aren't infecting enough people! Estimates for Italy for example speak of about 500 thousand infected. A small percentage of the population, and you see how they are faring. @JoannaL and @Kalbear thanks for your replies, yes, I've seen these plans, but I'm not sure if they are workable in the long term. I'm not thinking on the economic effects only, but also on social effects like influence in education, family relations, mental health, etc.
  23. I've read all I need about "flattening the curve", etc. Believe me, I understand the issue. Thing is, if the virus is more contagious than reported, which apparently it is (R0>3, instad ~2.4), will mean that as soon you let the people out, it will again infect a large amount of persons quickly and you may need another quarantine. With such large infection rates, it will be hard to make that famous "hammer and the dance" that you have seen in some cartoons.
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