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  1. After committing an atrocity or ten, Dany will see the error of her ways and do this. Added twist - the combination of fire and blood sacrifice involved will (fulfilling the dreams of her father and her ancestor Aerion) transform Dany into a literal dragon. She and Drogon will then fly off to a secluded spot and live happily ever after having hot dragon sex. This will be the sweet part of GRRM's bittersweet ending.
  2. The Ironborn are raiders, using their mobility to seek easy conquests and spoils. Euron may be seeking the Iron Throne, but his men want to drink, plunder, and rape. Since their coup de main was foiled, it is unlikely they will pursue a siege of Oldtown. Moreover, the Ironborn (other than Rodrik the Reader) despise maesters and Greenland learning. Even Euron is unlikely to know or care what the Citadel has in its possession. Some have suggested that after defeating the Redwine fleet, Euron will attack Starfall in order to get Dawn. (A magic sword to go with his magic armor.) I think that idea might very well be true. Feinting at Oldtown as a diversion, then using his mobility advantage to concentrate on Starfall would be a sound strategy for Euron. Meanwhile, Obara Sand and Areo Hotah are supposedly attacking High Hermitage (upriver from Starfall) in order to bring Dorkstar to justice. Hotah would be well within range to provide narrative coverage of Starfall. This may explain why AH is still being used as a POV by GRRM. It would also be a mechanism to get Dawn involved in the story - no one really expects Ned Dayne to wield it, do they? Aeron Greyjoy is one of the weakest POVs in the story, and was originally part of the mega-prologue, intended to be killed or bypassed as soon a a regular POV could take over. He will likely be sacrificed by Euron. Narrative coverage of Euron could be passed off from Aeron, to Areo, to someone close to KL, much as coverage of Stannis was passed off from Davos, to Jon, to Asha.
  3. A trial by combat is an appeal to the Seven. The HS literally has no right to overrule it. The rest of your assertion has no evidence to support it. Obviously, as I've stated. We agree here. Tommen is on his mother's side. She just dined with him during the epilogue. Qyburn owes all he has to Cersei, and Mace kicked him off the council. Did you not read the books? Black magic is no match for the power of the Seven, or so the Faith will hold. The results of the trial are final and definitive. That's the whole point of a trial by combat. Who does the HS have that would even pose the slightest challenge to UnGregor? No one in the text. And in fact "a mindless robot" is exactly what he appears to be. Cersei has all the Tyrell troops in the city behind her. If she loses, Margaery is no longer queen. That's not just my judgement, that's Kevan's, and Mace accepted it. Margaery's case is entirely separate from Cersei's, and and is not dependent on the outcome of Cersei's trial. You really didn't read the epilogue, did you? Randyll was not in any way part of Mace's suggestion to quash the charges. In fact, in ADWD Cersei I Kevan tells Cersei that Tarly swore a holy oath to deliver Margaery to trial in return for her release. If Mace quashes the charges (and Tarly can't deliver Margaery to trial), not only is that oath broken, Tarly is dishonored by his lord, and will likely desert to fAegon. Harys Swyft and the Red Cloaks, as I said. Swyft must soon leave for Braavos, of course. The Red Cloaks are too few to hold the city, but together with the Green and Gold Cloaks, they could hold the Red Keep. Mace already has Tommen. Why should he give him up for a "feigned boy"? The chance of that happening is so infinitesimally small it is not worth bothering over. The only warriors in the realm that could still challenge UnGregor are Garlan Tyrell and Sandor Clegane. They won't be there. The High Septon HAS NO RIGHT to denounce anyone. He is the spokesman of the gods. An appeal has been made to the gods, and their decision is final. He must honor it, or he denies his own faith. Lord Varys, not only do I see no evidence supporting your arguments, I see outright contradictions of the text. Don't bother replying - I'm leaving this board for another extended break, and if I ever come back' I'll do my best to avoid threads you participate in. You are not honest.
  4. ASoS, Bran IV Bran and Co. are talking to Gilly about Coldhands. "His elk?" said Bran, wonderstruck. "His elk?" said Meera, startled. "His ravens?" said Jojen. "Hodor?" said Hodor.
  5. Ser Harys Swyft was still in KL as of ADwD epilogue. Raff was presumably part of Red Ronnet's escort at the same time. They haven't left yet.
  6. And Cersei will have one other ally during her trial - Mace. Kevan explained it to Mace during the epilogue - if Cersei loses her trial, she will be found guilty of incest, Tommen will no longer be king, and Margaery will no longer be queen. Cersei has the law, UnGregor, Mace, and Tommen on her side. She wins (or lives to fight another day.) She makes the HS a mortal enemy, but he pretty much already is.
  7. Of course. In the medium or long term. But in the short term, Cersei has the advantage, because she has the king on her side. Tommen has the right to appoint new members of the KG. The High Septon has no right to dispute that. Cersei must be represented by a member of the KG. She will be. There is practically no chance anyone will be able to get UnGregor to remove his helmet. He will stand there, keeping his "vow" of silence. Either the fight occurs and he steamrolls his opponent, or the HS raises a stink and won't let his man fight. In that case, Cersei only need say that she met her obligations, is vindicated, and goes home. Tommen will confirm it. Of course that means the HS will raise the KL mob. But that will take time. The big loser will be Margaery. The HS can't let both queens get away; he'd lose too much face. He'll rig the jury against her. Or that's what Tyene will report to Mace. And Mace will have Tommen quash the charges against Margaery, just as he suggested in the epilogue. Now the HS will point the mob at both Cersei and Marge. Mace screwed up when he let Cersei's trial go first. Meanwhile, Mace will be advancing House Tyrell's interests at the expense of House Lannister so blatantly that the remaining Lannisters will have no choice but to look to the only real leader available - Cersei. Enter fAegon and Co. Lady Nym will be a bit of a wildcard, but she will be perfectly willing to let Cersei discredit herself. Then she'll move. If GRRM was going to change the dynamics in Mercy, he would have done so before posting the chapter. He knew what was in it.
  8. I agree about the timing of the creation of ACoK Jon I. That would also have been when GRRM wrote the Targaryen entry for the AGoT appendix. So the story of the Great Council of 233 existed when AGoT was published. And probably a bit more. Oldstones is on the map in AGoT, so the Dragonfly story probably existed as well. But I disagree that a proto-Brightflame was originally the Illyrio-Varys backed pretender. I see Varys's prentender as of indeterminate identity until after the Blackfyres were invented post-ACoK. Nor do I see major changes in Varys or LF. I do think that Maegor Brightflame's descendants are out there, however. and not connected to Varys or the Blackfyres. Off-topic here, though. Too speculative.
  9. Fully agree. Cersei has already atoned for the crimes she plead guilty to by doing her walk. UnGregor will win her trial by combat, proving her innocent of the other accusations. At that point, she's free and clear. And she's all House Lannister has left in KL. Swyft will defer to her. Whoever the captain of the Redcloaks is will take orders from her.
  10. A couple notes on the "Pretender" issue - (note chapter numbers are based on the prologue as Chapter 00.) (Hope this is correct. Apologies if I missed something.) Chpt 12 Eddard II - the Barrowlands scene. Ned mentions the children's death, Tywin's presentation of the bodies Chpt 20 Eddard IV - Ned arrives at Red Keep, meets Cat in LF's brothel. Ned remembers Aegon's body as "a red ruin". Chpt 30 Eddard VII - The Tourney scene. First time IIRC Aegon's head being dashed against the wall is mentioned. Chpt 32 Arya III - Arya catching cats, overhears Illyrio and Varys still planning invasion. To have a pretender plot, you [edit<need>endedit oops] a missing or unrecognizable body (unless you're going with an identical twin). We can see how the unrecognizable body data point is revealed slowly, but that doesn't mean much, since it could have been a back edit. Still, this shows that a pretender plot may be happening. The fact that there seems to be no other explanation for Illyrio and Varys's support of Viserys makes the pretender plot likely. But since Viserys's invasion wasn't going to happen anyway, and the pretender's invasion wasn't going to happen anytime soon, it may be that GRRM simply chose to put off deciding who the pretender would actually be. Varys is still supporting a pretender - does it matter why? I'm not sure that changes his character much, other than to keep his motives mysterious for a bit longer.
  11. The question said Raff the Sweetling (or someone from the entourage of Harys Swyft). I voted yes, because I assume Arya's mission was to discredit Swyft, but she had her choice of targets. The fact that one of the possible choices coincided with her "list" was a happy coincidence. Not discussion, per se, just clarification. Hope that's ok.
  12. A) Who is the "Hooded Man" in Winterfell? 3. Someone else - specifically someone from House Cerwin, to whom the Miller revealed that Theon fathered a bastard on the Miller's Wife. B ) Who wrote the Pink Letter 3. someone else - specifically Mance Rayder C) Rickon Stark, Shaggydog and Davos return alive from Skagos and Rickon is presented to Stannis and/or House Manderly 1, Yes - to House Manderly D) Jon Snow after the mutiny at the Night Watch 3. other - is dead and will be resurrected by Bran, in the WF godswood pool, by sacrificing Roose. (Col. Mustard will not be involved.) E) Arya's killing of Raff the Sweetling (or someone from the entourage of Harys Swyft) was done on the orders of the Faceless Men 1. Yes - Her mission was to discredit Swyft. F) Arya hears of or meets fArya (Jeyne Poole) 1. Yes - meets her in Braavos G) Jamie/Brienne Lady Stoneheart 1. Brienne and Jamie meet Lady Stoneheart and Jamie survives the meeting - Brienne sacrifices herself H) The boy with Jon Connington landing in Westeros in ADWD is Aegon Targaryen, the second child and only son of Prince Rhaegar Targaryen and Princess Elia Martell 2 False (thus he is a fake = fAegon) - He is Aegon Mopatis, heir of House Blackfyre I) Jon Snow’s true parentage 1. Rhaegar+Lyanna = Jon Snow - obviously J) Grey Scale will be transmitted by Jon Connington and/or Shireen Baratheon to other people 1. Yes K) The outcome of the Battle of Ice (at the Crofters Village), the capture of Winterfell is not included 1. Stannis wins and survives L) Who is the Harpy in Mereen? 2. Galazza Galare M) Robb’s will disinherits Sansa 1. Yes N) If Victarion orders the dragon horn (“dragonbinder”) to be blown, Victarion himself gains control over at least one dragon 2, False - Victarion is dragonchow.
  13. I haven't been hanging out here on a constant basis over the last 2-3 years; I just pop in for a bit every few months. As a result, I really had no idea what Lord Varys was talking about when he was referring to the Mercy chapter as the "first post-5-year-gap Arya chapter". I just read through the Do we think George passed 1500 manuscript pages? thread, and the welcome new (to me) info from Werthead. Did I miss anything else, especially pertaining to Alayne I?
  14. I sympathize, but that seems to be the way GRRM works. He originally envisioned three books, each of about 800 MS pages. (maybe 500 pages in paperback.) But he seems to have left his options open. The way he dealt with Aegon VI's death always allowed for the possibility of a fake death or a pretender. As the series grew, he pulled the trigger on that option. True story - I loaned my books to my sister, who is a conservative, devout Catholic. (Me, I'm a liberal atheist.) She read the first two, and gave up sometime during Storm, saying she "didn't like all the rapes." The story was just too rough for her. But after reading Game, she did say, "That kid who got his head smashed against the wall? He's alive, and will reappear."
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