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  1. what exactly are you wanting us to do? Self flagellate over more trump safaris?
  2. I can't wait for the parade of soul-searching Biden safaris from the right to start!
  3. Like I said in a previous thread, I think he goes to Mar a Lago fairly soon, basically abdicating without giving a concession or showing up to the inauguration. I don't think he can ever go back to NYC after this. I know it's been pointed out that New Yorkers always "hated" him, but that's not true in the way it is post 2015. He was thought of as a pissant, but not someone deserving of complete social ostracization and constant protest. Now, he'd never be able to go anywhere that escapes just how unconditionally he is reviled and unwelcome here. I hope his kids don't return either, and that they remain cut off from all the society events they so desperately crave. They're hated too, but I'm not sure if they'd inspire such a constant level of protest. I mean, I would donate to more of those Times Square billboards the Lincoln project did if it managed to keep them out.
  4. I hadn't realized Nixon's pardon lacked so much specificity. So Trump can issue a pardon to anyone he wants that essentially says "You are pardoned from any (federal) crime anyone might suggest you committed up to the time of this pardon" (and then have Pence do that for him if he's willing to resign and make it happen). I'm wondering about what happens if that $100 million he might owe the IRS actually does come due. Would a pardon erase the debt to the IRS, or just prevent him from legal repercussions if he's also found guilty of tax fraud?
  5. (quoted from the previous) I don't disagree, but which kind of pardons are you thinking? Ones for his cronies that are already indicted? I was rather hoping that any federal charges would be brought against Trump, his family, and random associates like Giuliani after Jan 20 to avoid this very thing. And I don't think you can grant a blanket pardon for crimes you haven't been charged with yet, right?
  6. I'd be really surprised if he comes to NYC. My guess is that he cowers in Mar a Lago from this point forward, skipping a concession speech and probably even the inauguration.
  7. Instead of throwing money to moonshot elections (Harrison in SC, McGrath in KY, for example), maybe investing in local news? Sort of like a less Pravda version of Sinclair, plus local newspapers so that half of the country isn't stuck in fact deserts? Maybe it could puncture the bubble of Fox News? To expand-- I don't think our messages are wrong or even poorly delivered on the Dem side. I think people aren't hearing us. It's just not breaking through because all these people aren't being reached.
  8. I don't understand what you persist to see as our "cluelessness" regarding American racism. Without even bringing up anything else, Trump literally repeatedly refuses to denounce white supremacy when lobbed softball opportunities to do so, and flirts with racists every chance he's offered. Like these are three of the easiest things in the world to do if you genuinely aren't racist or simply don't want to be seen as racist: don't wink at white supremacists, don't employ open racists like Stephen Miller, and when asked if you support white supremacy, say no. The fact that people keep voting for this guy means that, at the very least, they are ok with directly empowering white supremacy.
  9. The post in question explains the rationale as voting for ostensible material benefits to businesses in a Trump administration that wouldn't exist in a Biden one. But it completely elides over the harms caused to business by Trump's plague mismanagement, and instead appeals to Trump as a "law and order" type candidate that will keep "rioters" in line because "rioters" (ironically under this supposed law and order candidate's watch) were the "last straw" that harmed businesses. Emphasizing the harm to business by protesters against racial violence (which was extremely limited in scope) as opposed to the pandemic (which is all consuming and inescapably linked to Trump's mismanagement and incompetence) is an interesting choice when attempting to distance oneself from accusations of racism. And for the record, a Trump voter might not be a virulent racist, or specifically voting for racist reasons, but voting for Trump is a racist act.
  10. Could that reflect people who typically vote repub but truly hate Trump such that they are either abstaining from a vote for president or voting Biden, while also voting for republicans down ticket to limit the “damage” Biden can do? (and to mitigate the identity crisis caused by voting dem I imagine)
  11. Aside from the fact that both are women with fathers in politics, what similarities exactly are you seeing between Ivanka and Marine that would make this so? Like in terms of their respective political histories and personal traits and abilities. Am I missing something?
  12. Well according to the inestimable Steve Bannon, Ivanka believes she'll be the first woman president. I do think it's fair to say that Ivanka, Jr and even Kushner have designs on holding office, and power more generally, but I just don't find them electable or as having any sort of political appeal after this trainwreck.
  13. What am I missing regarding the supposed Trump legacy? Who exactly would comprise either Ivanka or Jr's fan base? Jr has more appeal to those that make up the angry, wronged-by-equality males that fuel Trump's core, but he has no charisma and doesn't really have the pull of Trump. And I'm not clear who would want to elevate Ivanka, as the aforementioned core demographic would have no use for her, and I doubt they would even if she rebranded herself as a gun nut openly supportive of the KKK. And wouldn't those (I'm assuming people are thinking of the Suburban White Woman vote here) who might have seen her as a moderating, "smart businesswoman," return to normalcy candidate strongly prefer someone who isn't tarnished by the Trump name who actually is reasonably intelligent, and reasonably capable at politics, like Nikki Haley? Plus, while Trump Senior is a spoiled little rich boy who inherited everything, he at least sold the picture that he was self-made. There is no such veneer for his spawn. I just don't really see who within the Republican base would be clamoring for these talentless chucklefucks. Unless we're talking about maybe trying for like some red county seat in some red state? ETA: Sorry Horse- I think I accidentally selected your quote, but meant to reply only to the first one.
  14. Oh yea sorry I meant that as a given. Does court packing actually undo this and is it the best or only option to hope for? And does doing so give the court less legitimacy?
  15. Yea I didn’t really think there was a viable nuclear option. Do you think dems winning can undo the damage?
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