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Lost Melnibonean

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  1. I suspect we can chalk it up to early drafts surviving the plot changes, like the early foreshadowing of Jaime as a future king, and Daenerys speaking with a Tyroshi accent even though her backstory was moved to Braavos.
  2. And they were mentioned, kind of like a legend, in TWOIAF, no?
  3. And how could Ser Jaime of the Kingsguard inherit the Wardenship of the West?
  4. Don't forget about their father Lord Elmo and his grandfather Lord Grover.
  5. Ok, I will bite. (Get it?) How does this chapter confirm that Euron is allied with the Deep Ones?
  6. It all relates back to the lemon tree that started in Tyrosh. https://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/131505-evidence-that-the-lemon-tree-was-not-originally-in-braavos/
  7. When we see lemons, things don't usually end well... In Sansa I, Game 15, she was looking forward to lemon cakes in the queen's wheelhouse, but her day ended with her prince's loathing and contempt. Samwell's early childhood went from snitching lemon cakes to contempt, abuse, and banishment by his father. In Sansa II, Game 29, Sansa went from enjoying lemon cakes with Joffrey at the feast following the first day of jousting to being escorted back to her cell by the Hound. In Sansa III, Game 44, Sansa and Jeyne (poor Jeyne) looked for lemon cakes in the kitchen, but at the end of the chapter learned that her father was sending her back to Winterfell. Sansa shared lemon cakes with the Tyrells before being forced to wed the imp. On the morning Sansa was forced to marry the imp, along with the new gown, Cersei sent her favorite scents for Sansa's use too. Of course, "Sansa chose a sharp sweet fragrance with a hint of lemon in it under the smell of flowers."  In Winds, Run, Sansa! Run! Before donning the ugly little girl's face, the kindly man gave a girl a drink so tart it was like biting into lemon. That made "no one" think of Arya's sister, and Sansa's fondness for lemon cakes. In Arya V, Game 65, Arya offered to trade a fat pigeon for a lemon, but ended up at her father's execution. Jeor Mormont drank lemon in his beer every day. He still had his own teeth but his men mutinied and murdered him. At Bitterbridge, Renly's bannermen feasted on lemon cakes. Of course, Renly's campaign ened shortly thereafter. As Davos sailed with Stannis's fleet into Blackwater Bay, he observed Aegon's High Hill, dark against a lemon sky. That's an odd description for a sky, no? As Davos turned downstream, the mouth of the Blackwater Rush had turned into the mouth of hell. At Edmure's wedding feast Catelyn noted that Ryman Frey had bathed in lemon water but failed to mask his sour sweat, and that Roose smelled sweeter but no more pleasant. The Feast did not end on a happy note. At Joffrey's wedding feast Tyrion had a slice of pigeon pie covered with a spoon of lemon cream. A few paragraphs later Tyrion stood accused of regicide. That was the last of 18 dishes served to Joffrey just before he choked. On the night Daenerys was sold to the savage she smelled sweet lemon among other eastern scents. Cersei drank lemon water so tart she had to spit it out the morning she learned that Tyrion had murdered their father. When Cersei entered Maggy the Frog's tent, one of the eastern scents she smelled was lemongrass. Before the night was done Cersei would learn that Melara had a crush on Jaime, and Melara would die at the bottom of a well. Lem Lemoncloak just reeks of bitterness and disappointment, doesn't he? Doran's Water Gardens smell of lemons and blood oranges. Anybody think Dorne is going end up happy with their blood and fire? In The Queenmaker, Arianne noticed that Darkstar preferred lemon water to summer wine, and she served lemonsweet to Myrcella before Darkstar cut off Myrcella's ear amidst lemon orchards watered by a spider's web of old canals. Arianne’s first meal while locked in the tower included kid roasted with lemon. And the soup at the feast to welcome Gregor's head was made with eggs and lemons. Stannis enjoys boiled eggs and lemon water for breakfast, and, well, I think we all know his end will be bitter and disappointing. In Jon IV, Dance 17, Stannis offers lemon water to Jon. Wisely, Jon refuses. Stannis drinks more. Just after Tyrion plants the notion of sailing to Westeros without Daenerys in the noble lad's head, the merry band aboard the Shy Maid enjoy a pike with lemon juice, and they learn that Daenerys hasn't left Meereen. Aegon fatefully decides to go west insteaed of east. Anybody think Aegon will win the dance? Then Tyrion decides to go whoring after dinner, and meets his new buddy Jorah. Tyrion suspected Yezzan was drinking lemon water as the yellow whale bid on him and Penny. Tyrion served Nurse lemonsweet with the mushrooms from Illyrio's garden.The Green Grace accepted a goblet of sweeetened lemon juice from the Queen's hand, just before infected corpses started flying over the walls. Oh, and guess what kind of trees Daenerys has in her terrace garden in Meereen? And we see a lemon in one of the ancillary novellas... When Dunk has a personal feast, feeling what it means to be a knight for the first time at the beginning of The Hedge Knight, he dines on lamb and an even better duck cooked with cherries and lemons, and he quaff in it down with four tankards of a thick, nut brown ale. By the end of the novella, though, Prince Maekar had slain his brother, Baelor Breakspear, who died defending Dunk against Prince Aerion's accusations. 
  8. I have seen this used to support the argument that Stannis authored the pink letter.
  9. I am thinking that this line line in which Catelyn considers Renly... Catelyn II, Clash 22 ...is an allusion to "one of the the best stories in the world," The Man Who Would be King.
  10. Paste this into Google to start... niflheim site:asoiaf.westeros.org
  11. Which lords of the Vale wanted to back Tywin in the War of the Five Kings?
  12. Eddard VI, Game 27 Lynn Varley is, and Jack Kirby was, among the most influential persons in the comic book industry.
  13. Spellsingers are mentioned once in Daenerys III, Game 23, and appear once in Daenerys VI, Game 54. They appear to be an homage to the Spellsinger series of eight fantasy novels written in the 1980s and 90s by Alan Dean Foster.
  14. You omitted Grover Tully. Green, red, and blue... just like the forks of a certain river, and perhaps, the three heads of Rhaegar's dragon.
  15. Aegon's landing site and the development of King's Landing among the three hills was surely inspired by the Seven Hills of Rome (but I see no parallels between Aegon the Conqueror and Romulus).
  16. I don't see how the Mad Mouse makes off with her. What's he going to do, drug her and tie her over the back of his horse? How else does she end up in King's Landing? Petyr is not like to send her back, and the folks that oppose Petyr would be even less likely to send her to Cersei. ETA Maybe she tries to escape from Petyr, and the Mad Mouse offers to protect her, but tricks her and takes her to King's Landing?
  17. Maybe you are, maybe you aren't. I would say the leading theory on Aegon is that he is not actually the son of Rhaegar Targaryen, and that he is a descendant of Daemon Blackfyre, but there are many variations, and the Aegon theories are much less widely accepted than RLJ and the Daenerys presumption.
  18. Any theories that contradict Jon Snow being the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark, and Daenerys being the daughter of Aerys I and Queen Rhaella are generally considered to be crackpot.
  19. No. I don’t think the timing works. Jon is in a coma or dead at the Wall, and the tourney will be done within a few days, no?
  20. A lot would depend on who is calling the shots in King’s Landing.
  21. That's an understatement! Poor Sansa. Does anyone think that the Mad Mouse will make off with her? My hunch is that he will try, and Petyr will use the episode to make her feel even more dependent on him.
  22. I wonder if it's possible that Euron might aquire Tyrion and Penny before Tyrion hooks up with Daenerys, and whether Euron might give Tyrion to Cersei as a proposal gift?
  23. I am still wondering about this. I still think there is a possibility that Euron has learned how to enter men's dreams and influence visions, as the Undying Ones might have done to Daenerys. But Daenerys's visions in the House of the Undying Ones might not have been inspired by the Undying Ones. The only way we know that one man can enter the dreams of another and inspire visions is by being a greenseer (presumably plugged into the weirnet) or by using glass candles (which might only be a form of trippy communication. I dig your interpretation of Euron on the Iron Throne with the impaled gods as Aeron despairing to see that Euron is able to escape the wrath of gods. Does that suggest that the capering dwarves represent mankind? That Euron can defy gods and make men dance to his tune?
  24. Hmm... The Princess and the Queen Trombo did slay the dragon... Dalton Trumbo, Wikipedia
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