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What is House Dayne's Religion?
Universal Sword Donor replied to Bendric Dayne's topic in General (ASoIaF)
We do not agree on that. It’s very possible given several passages we’ve seen that hundreds of knights were made w little to no ceremony. And by denying that one of them is a knight makes you doubt the word and knighthood of the dubbing knight. The warrior would frown upon that. there might well be social doubt a persons knighthood. We see it with glendon ball and Dunk and they end up having to prove it or be vouched for. That doesn’t mean they aren’t knights, though the irony in dunks case is thick. -
What is House Dayne's Religion?
Universal Sword Donor replied to Bendric Dayne's topic in General (ASoIaF)
Absolutely nothing puts their knighthood in limbo. They’re knights -
What is House Dayne's Religion?
Universal Sword Donor replied to Bendric Dayne's topic in General (ASoIaF)
Any knight can make a knight. mentioned several times in book by a variety of noble characters and confirmed in grrm in the SSMs. Beric actually gets criticized by clegane for knighting the bwb bc they haven’t earned it. -
What is House Dayne's Religion?
Universal Sword Donor replied to Bendric Dayne's topic in General (ASoIaF)
Right but that’s being described as a requirement to him, not him swearing to do it. And again we haven’t seen the entire process play out, merely a small portion. We know Glendon ball was dubbed but there’s no mention of swearing anything. And any knight can make a knight, so even if it’s supposed to happen it’s not a guarantee. knighthood irl took centuries to fully adopt all the religious accoutrement. edit: forgot about beric and gendry. Obviously beric isn’t a follower of the seven after his resurrection and he knights gendry naming the gods but not specifically the seven. So we have multiple knights who have either forsworn the seven or never swore to them at all. -
House Frey and meritocracy
Universal Sword Donor replied to The Commentator's topic in General (ASoIaF)
You want to be a part of breaking the king's peace and also want someone else to be part of it? Better pay up -
It's a completely fair point. You argued no king had had their marriage set aside. No conditions or qualifications on that. The who, what, when, where, why and how are all very different, but blanket statements are usually set aside for that very reason.
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Is Baylor the Blessed not considered a king anymore?
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House Frey and meritocracy
Universal Sword Donor replied to The Commentator's topic in General (ASoIaF)
If he'd have just withdrew his levies and protected Frey land against all comers like he did in the beginning of AGoT, absolutely no one would have blamed him. If he'd have withdrawn his levies from Robb and declared for Joffrey, absolutely no one would blame him if he had his troops track down Robb and behead him on the spot. Instead he essentially welcome a new negotiation under a flag of truce and butchered someone he just agreed to be an ally to. The closest thing in Westeros history to what Walder Frey did was the Dornish killing Daeron I at a parlay under a white flag, and even at that point the crown knew the Dornish were enemies who they expected to honor the white flag. Killing Craster under his own roof is probably a distant second or third if you've got a third one I forgot.. -
Hear me out - Ned: Lyanna if you want your son to live, we have to pretend he's my son and I could leave him to be raised in KL with you. If not, Robert will smash his head with a Warhammer and you will be a silent sister in the best case scenario. You could also end up with a smashed head. Or you could play dead and run away with basically no money and no protection Lyanna: Hmmmm I would not even legitimately know which decision she would make -- wolf blood and all -- but I'd imagine she would pick one where Jon lives. Scenario #3 is probably best case scenario with Ned up in WF and Arryn acting as HotK. "She looks after me as a mom, not an aunt" flies when you're the only blood relative within 1000 miles.
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The last Green Council and its implications
Universal Sword Donor replied to James Steller's topic in General (ASoIaF)
Jeor would take him in a KL minute: The Night's Watch has become an army of sullen boys and tired old men. Apart from the men at my table tonight, I have perhaps twenty who can read, and even fewer whocan think, or plan, or lead. -
What if Rhaenyra was well prepared for the Dance?
Universal Sword Donor replied to maesternewton's topic in General (ASoIaF)
They do nothing. They already lost when the babies were legitimate and got the big dragons. -
We know exactly why he does what he does. It’s in a POV chapter
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It's definitely not peace time, RR and Blackwoods are still holding out. Stannis holds DS and SE. Stoneheart and the rest of the Brave Companions are wreaking havoc in the RL. The IB are raiding the entirety of the coastal Reach. Jaime does what can to restore rule of law and leaves behind the holy hundred to help, but even he doubts if it's enough. Your statement just felt a bit contradictory, starting out with its peacetime and then saying he never punished someone for a war crime, which he actually did on multiple occasions, the Lannister soldier who raped Pia and the Lannister deserter, among others, who occupied the ruins of the Wode's tower houses.
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Manderlys, Umbers and Rodrik in Bran II ACoK
Universal Sword Donor replied to Moon Man's topic in General (ASoIaF)
As windy as he was vast, he began by asking Winterfell to confirm the new customsofficers he had appointed for White Harbor. The old ones had been holding back silver for King's Landing rather than paying it over to the new King in the North. "King Robb needs his own coinage as well," he declared, "and White Harbor is the very place to mint it." He offered to take charge of the matter Grant me the gold and within the year I will float you sufficient galleys to take Dragonstone and King's Landing both." It’s pretty certain where he got the money -
Manderlys, Umbers and Rodrik in Bran II ACoK
Universal Sword Donor replied to Moon Man's topic in General (ASoIaF)
We have no idea if the Umbers or Rodrik were complicit at all. Rodrik dies before we hear of anything else and there is absolutely no mention of Umber help / lumber or even Umber refugees anywhere around WH or Manderly lands, which are already flush with more than enough timber, sailors, and shipwrights to build the galleys we "see" and are told about. Ockham's razor should be telling us Manderly built the fleet of his own volition -- possibly with the tax revenues the customs agents were withholding from King Robb -- in response to the catastrophe at WF and Blackwater. -
Uh .... he hangs a Lannister soldier for doing exactly that: One of the Mountain's men had tried to rape the girl at Harrenhal, and had seemed honestly perplexed when Jaime commanded Ilyn Payne to take his head off. "I had her before, a hunnerd times," he kept saying as they forced him to his knees. "A hunnerd times, m'lord. We all had her." When Ser Ilyn presented Pia with his head, she had smiled through her ruined teeth.
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Manderlys, Umbers and Rodrik in Bran II ACoK
Universal Sword Donor replied to Moon Man's topic in General (ASoIaF)
He orders the the Umbers to build longships with Manderly's help. Whether or not that happens we do not know. Longships would really only be useful against wildling raiders and *maybe* smaller pirates. We know they do not stand up to larger galleys -- iron fleet excepted -- and cannot ferry a large group around thanks to Jason Mallister. Her son turned to Lord Jason Mallister. "You have a fleet at Seagard?" "A fleet, Your Grace? Half a dozen longships and two war galleys. Enough to defend my own shores against raiders, but I could not hope to meet the Iron Fleet in battle." We do know that Manderly has been building war galleys for about a year, which is about the time that Rodrik was killed, while the Umbers split their forces between Bolton and Stannis. I doubt Robb ever even heard about the fleet proposal given how hard it was to reach him in the field, the events that followed the harvest feast, and his untimely death. More likely Manderly started preparing for the fleet when he heard about Blackwater, Bran and Rickon's deaths, et al, either to take advantage of the power vacuum -- to preserve stark power or increase his own -- or make sure Robb wouldn't be at a disadvantage against the royal fleet. It's still a gray area as what Manderly intends to do with Rickon and this new fleet, but it's pretty apparent he started working on his own without receiving assent from Rodrik or Robb. PDF Timeline for reference https://mega.nz/file/tpgxUATJ#F6Q13AE1eAyaM5XMNkLSvzvkN20N77DNzdukLSm9qYw