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  1. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    Maybe because Antifa has groups all around the world, not just in the US, and they keep being violent assholes everywhere they go. Two things here: 1. People will describe many things as incitement to violence, in the same way that people will call everything sexual harrassement nowadays. It doesn't make it true. There are legal definitions as to what constitues incitement to violence. Being offended is not enough. 2. I absolutely want the state to treat all violent ideologies equally. It's you who doesn't want that, otherwise, you wouldn't be here defending Antifa. Another example of what I've been talking about: you, and other violent people like you, think it's okay to commit violence against and deplatform people if you don't like what they're saying. If I adhered to your logic, I would have every right to deplatform you because I don't like your hateful rhetoric. And that's exactly what it is. I haven't seen a single positive post from you so far. Only hate filled ones. Reflect on that for a moment. Ah yes, genocide is on the corner, no doubt. Yes, and it's going to be the progressives/liberals that determine who are the nazis and who are simply conservatives. You really don't see the problem here? You're implying white people can't suffer from racism. That's not a troll, that's Ebu Gogo. Here's one.
  2. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    Ok. What's the correct word for the behaviours I described?
  3. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    Well you are very luck then. You can simply film it and report it to the police. Incitement to violence is illegal in the US, as far as I know.
  4. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    Quick replies, because I have to go and don't want to get into a deeper discussion: 1. I agree. But as people in this thread have pointed out, the KKK (as well as other neonazi groups) is still active. This bill really wouldn't be targeted at one group only. 2. I think that using violence and suppressing your oppositions right to exercise their free speech counts as fascist. I guess you could say that they are using fascist means to fight fascist ideas, but that just makes them hypocrites in my opinion. 3. As I said earlier, the difference between wearing masks and carrying guns is that by wearing masks, people are obstructing law enforcement, by making it extremely hard for the police to identify those that commit crimes. 4. I don't think that by this law, the US would be fighting anti-fascist ideas. I think they would be fighting fascist people from both sides. Simply put, my position is that you should have free speech, as long as it's not incitement to violence, blackmail, etc. The problem is, this is clearly not the case. There is wide range of people that Antifa will call far-right, nazis, white supremacists etc. This includes centrists, libertarians, and supporters of free speech in general. Just think about how many events, especially on universities, have been shut down by Antifa, even though they had nothing to do with white supremacy. Or the riots in Hamburg last year. Just look at that video and tell me that these people aren't violent, as someone in this thread has claimed earlier. They are violent, and not just agaisnt white supremacists.
  5. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    First of all, I don't know who the Proud Boys are, or what message they were spreading. It doesn't matter. What matters is that they had the right to hold that rally, and they broke know laws by marching on the streets. Their message is irrelevant. It's very revealing that you keep mentioning it. It highlights that you think some ideas shouldn't be publicly expressed, and if people commit violent acts against those who spread these ideas, they are justified. I disagree with that. I support free speech. I think the Proud Boys should be able to say whatever they want, so long as it's legal (not incitement to violent etc.). I also think that Antifa members should be able to say whatever they want, so long as it's legal. So that is where we differ. You think it's justified to attack people for their ideas, I don't. Yet I am the one regularly called a fascist. Strange world.
  6. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    Are you referring to Portland? If yes, can you explain how it was the rally people's fault that the whole thing turned violent? There is a difference between wearing masks and carrying weapons. By dressing in all black and wearing masks, even if you are not violent, you are helping the violent members of your group escape prosecution. The black bloc is an effective strategy. If it wasn't, Antifa wouldn't be using it. Carrying guns (or batons) is harmless, so long as you are not using them. That said, I don't think that bringing guns to a protest is a good idea either.
  7. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    Shitty behavior like.. throwing fireworks in people's faces because you don't like what they are saying. That is not a very anti-fascist thing to do. As I said, it's easy to justify any action when you can just dehumanize the victim. No matter what's done to them, it's okay, because they are white supremacists after all. Remind me why my identity is relevant?
  8. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    Yeah, I know, it's very easy to use the "US is white supremacist!" card to excuse any and all shitty behaviour from the left. Doesn't matter what they do, in the end, it's always the evil white supremacists' fault.
  9. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    I'm not American. Can it be done as state legislature, then? I've just seen an aritcle that says there are laws against wearing masks in certain states. Because the only purpose of the mask is to conceal their identities and make criminal prosecution more difficult. Why do you think Antifa does it?
  10. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    I've always sided against fascists. That's why I'm against Antifa. Glad you agree. Was this supposed to be a joke? I really can't tell.
  11. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    Maybe you missed the bolded part in the following:
  12. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    The better question is, how can you possibly not support an action that could punish people for going to rallies and protests covered in masks, body armor and carrying batons, and then being violent thugs.
  13. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    The post was in general about leftists responding to people rallying for white supremacy. The most recent example of which was in Portland. And if I remember correctly, the same poster described the Portland events earlier in exactly this way - that white supremacists turned it violent. (let's not get into whether or not people were actually marching for white supremacy, we know what he poster meant).
  14. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    No whataboutism in my post whatsoever. I was replying to this statement in the post that I was quoting: -White supremacists turned the rally into a violent assault- That is flat out wrong. The violence was started by Antifa.
  15. SweetPea

    U.S. Politics: Kraving for Kavanaugh

    Like in Portland, right? Where the peaceful, anti-violence Antifa members totally didn't stand in the rally's way, agitating, throwing bottles, rocks and fireworks into the crowd.
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