The Red Melli Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 http://youtu.be/MtvPQsq4cHk?t=50s This is a pretty interesting interview with Oliver Davies the actor who played Maester Cressen. During the interview Oliver talks about Melisandre, Stannis and Davos. While talking about Melisandre he told about the poison scene and during takes he asked to Carice "Why don't you die?" In Which she replied "I'm 400 years old" Many people here thinks Melisandre glamours her appearance because she is old as example, but 400 years old?!? Now this could be just a joke made by Carice, though she has mentioned several times that Melisandre is very old. I've also read an interesting theory that Melisandre is a survivor ot the Doom of Vayria. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petite Psycophant Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'm going with it's just a joke. But I'm biased against any crackpot theories or anything that has no textual evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Melli Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 http://www.accesshollywood.com/access-countdown-to-game-of-thrones-season-2-qanda-carice-van-houten-talks-melisandre_article_62348 Interview with Carice, second question in which she said that Melisandre is way over 100 years old.Carice sure likes to spoil alot or she's just trolling. :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Reynolds Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Melisandre is most likely a fire wight, so she could be 100s of years old. We know she doesn't *need* to eat, she survived Cressen's poison, she doesn't sleep, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yolkboy Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I don't think Carice knows how old Mel is. The magazine interview came after she said 400 and she says... I don’t how old she is It sounds like she's been told she'd very old, but not exactly how old. Going back to the actual text, there's hints she's old ("long before Asshai"), but no reason whatsoever to believe she was born well before Aegon the Conqueror. We see in her POV she has memories of her childhood that remain fresh to her mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Dead Just Broken Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I don't think Carice knows how old Mel is. The magazine interview came after she said 400 and she says... It sounds like she's been told she'd very old, but not exactly how old. Going back to the actual text, there's hints she's old ("long before Asshai"), but no reason whatsoever to believe she was born well before Aegon the Conqueror. We see in her POV she has memories of her childhood that remain fresh to her mind. Yeah, I don't really buy her being ridiculously old. Doesn't she have her period during her vision in ADWD? I think there's certainly some sort of glamor bestowed upon her by Rhaegar's ruby but I'm not sure she's 400 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I think she is old, but not that old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJack Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I would be happy if the 4 great bastard are still fighting over the throne some 100years after their first battle.-BR is still there-the golden company too (bittersteel),-Daemon (f(a)Aegon),-Shiera(melisandre) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gar Weg Wun Sygerrik Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 400 would be convenient since that's roughly the same date as the Valyrian Doom. Edit: For Crackpots I mean. I don't have any theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dany Girl Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I really like the idea that she is Sheira and Bloodraven's child... that theory just made a lot of sense to me and I think it really lends to her misunderstood motivations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevumar Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I would be happy if the 4 great bastard are still fighting over the throne some 100years after their first battle.-BR is still there-the golden company too (bittersteel),-Daemon (f(a)Aegon),-Shiera(melisandre) I'd find it dissatisfying if all of these people were still in play. One (Bloodraven) is pretty interesting, but I think the conflict means more if it's being played out mostly by the descendants of the original parties. I think there's some indication that Melisandre is alive beyond the normal human lifespan, but I also don't want her to be yet another 100-year-old-plus Targaryen relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowsKnight Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 No. I think there'd be clues in her POV chapters if that was the case. I found her more human after those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordelor Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Has the actress wh plays Melisandre read the books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thucydides Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 It seems pretty clear that Melisandre is very aged. Centuries old? Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordelor Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 It seems pretty clear that Melisandre is very aged. Centuries old? Maybe. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danm_999 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Why? Despite looking like she's in her thirties, she makes a very curious comments in her POVs; Melisandre had practiced her art for years beyond count, and she had paid the price. That said, we don't really know how old she is, since even she seems to have lost track of her age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Mel is the daughter of Shiera and Bloodraven which makes her old but not that old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I certainly like the theory that she's Shiera Seastar's daughter. "Years beyond count" implies that she's far older than her appearance, although we don't know how much older. I wonder what's meant by "paid the price". Possibly, the gradual loss of her humanity, as she loses the need for food or sleep. Or having to be a slave. Or perhaps she's given some being a claim on her soul when she dies, in return for learning shadow-binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronn Urgandy Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I buy that she is old, however, if she glamours, does anybody notice it start to go fuzzy or anything like with other glamours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I certainly like the theory that she's Shiera Seastar's daughter. "Years beyond count" implies that she's far older than her appearance, although we don't know how much older. I wonder what's meant by "paid the price". Possibly, the gradual loss of her humanity, as she loses the need for food or sleep. Or having to be a slave. Or perhaps she's given some being a claim on her soul when she dies, in return for learning shadow-binding. I think she died at least once and was resurrected Beric style. That explains a bit about her memory supression but the curious thing is that she does not seem to remember anything about dying. That is most probably because fire consumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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