Ko Rakharo Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Just before Robb visits the Twins for what would be the Red Wedding, he discusses the news on the war, including Manderly and Glover's recent arrest in the Narrow Sea, in the presence of Catelyn and Lords Umber, Bolton, Glover and Lady Mormont, right after speaking to Catelyn and Greatjon about legitimising Jon Snow. I assumed that document was Jon's be-a-Stark signature; of course it had no value once there was no King in the North anymore and Jon was later elected Lord Commander, but I wouldn't think of such an important document to be just a vague mention. What happened to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowzeye Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Since all the parties involved in drawing up the document are either dead or... I think wherever it is is invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter's Gone Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Martin is an amazing author without a doubt. IMO. However it seems that his emphasis on Robb's letter may come into importance later in the series. I'm not sure how, or why, but it does seem that as it's contents are not known, it is left open. I think that's what makes Martin so good. As you can't assume anything in these books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Since all the parties involved in drawing up the document are either dead or... I think wherever it is is invalid. It's not invalid simply because the people who signed it are dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 That document will most likely have some value in the future. During the chapter where it is signed, it is already mentioned what it will contain, though no specifics are described. The official app gives more specifics: and stated that Robb legitimized Jon and named him his heir with that document, to prevent Winterfell from falling into the hands of the Lannisters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther2000 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I really hope that GRRM, brings up that letter again in WOW. Though, think that it will mean very little in the future. Winter is coming & in the end I don't think that heirs, etc... will mean to much of anything anymore. I would love to see/read the reaction of Ramsay Bolton if that letter comes to light. He will truly loose his mind. Winterfell, he thinks will be his when Roose dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Turncloak Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 It should get interesting in the next book. The document will definately appear again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FakeJaqenH'ghar Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Winterfell, he thinks will be his when ***** dies. keep in mind we are in a Still Reading forum for A Storm of Swords... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther2000 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Not spoiling anything. Remember," ALL MEN MUST DIE". Just talking about the Letter that rob wrote & the difference of the 2 main Bastards in the book & how they are. I do hope that the letter will show up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christi84 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Perhaps the letter will get to Jon, all the men of the North would rally behind him, bastrd or not, A Stark is a Stark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Who Laughed Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (Please keep in mind I have only just finished Storm of Swords)I do believe Jon will find out about the document towards the end of the series, I don't believe GRRM would have mentioned it if it wouldn't be important in the upcoming books (perhaps only the final two). I do think this will have an effect on Jon's storyline later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran the Broken </3 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Perhaps the letter will get to Jon, all the men of the North would rally behind him, bastrd or not, A Stark is a Stark Mate, Jon is a Snow not a Stark. Besides, the Night's Watch cannot involve themselves in matters of the Realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Cold Fingers Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 It's not invalid simply because the people who signed it are dead. Very valid point! That document will most likely have some value in the future. During the chapter where it is signed, it is already mentioned what it will contain, though no specifics are described. The official app gives more specifics: and stated that Robb legitimized Jon and named him his heir with that document, to prevent Winterfell from falling into the hands of the Lannisters Exactly. And we do not know the fate of the messengers nor whereabouts of the letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkdirewolf Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Mate, Jon is a Snow not a Stark. Besides, the Night's Watch cannot involve themselves in matters of the Realm.Unless the night's watch need help from the northern armies to battle and push back the wights, if it gets to a battle, to protect the realm. Jon is a stark. He has stark blood and is a warg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevNath Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I believe this can all be explained in a very good fan theory called The Great North Conspiracy. It is very detailed an very convincing. The news could quite easily make it to Jon and even if it doesn't the northern lords loyal to rob would uphold his words anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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