unSonofStannis Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Dude. Roose was HOPING that he would do that. He was quite disappointed when he learned that Stannis didn't go for the bait. I know it was Roose's plan and it was a good one imo but Roose doesnt know what hes dealing with in Stannis, Stannis wouldve found a way to take the Dreadfort quickly, the joke wouldve been on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pentos Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Stannis was not on sea, he was on land, that Florent he appointed was in command and was responsible for the fleet. Stannis was the Commander. The strategy was his. I find it hard to fathom how the repairing of a massive iron chain could have gone unnoticed by someone who's plan was to sail up the BB and take KL. Did Stannis have no spies in the city he was trying to take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I think he will join someone, possibly Dany. His character seems to be set up for some bigger relevance and he's Valyrian (kind of). I think hell join Stannis per one of patchfaces prophecies, check them out their interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Stannis was the Commander. The strategy was his. I find it hard to fathom how the repairing of a massive iron chain could have gone unnoticed by someone who's plan was to sail up the BB and take KL. Did Stannis have no spies in the city he was trying to take? No he didnt, the Antler men were Stannis men but he wasnt in contact with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Stannis was the Commander. The strategy was his. I find it hard to fathom how the repairing of a massive iron chain could have gone unnoticed by someone who's plan was to sail up the BB and take KL. Did Stannis have no spies in the city he was trying to take? Yes, Stannis should have consulted Google Earth before he left Storm's End. Or Imry could write him an e-mail before entering the Rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbuster Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He should have checked his spam folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Abominable SnowOther Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 nah just whip out his iphone :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbuster Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Atleast the antler-men being tossed out via trebuchet would have told him, Stannis Fail. :thumbsdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pentos Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 No he didnt, the Antler men were Stannis men but he wasnt in contact with them. It's not good generalship to attack blindly. Stannis is a fearless, hard, disciplined soldier but I think he needs someone with greater tactical and strategic acumen to advise him. Otherwise he makes very bad decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Yes, Stannis should have consulted Google Earth before he left Storm's End. Or Imry could write him an e-mail before entering the Rush. Exactly how was he to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 No seriously, there have been already several threads that came to the conclusion that Stannis did no wrong in appointing Imry his fleet commander. Imry was supposed to land the troops at the mud gate, something which he actually did albeit, losing ships (which wasn't part of the plan). Tyrion's miscalculation just helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Atleast the antler-men being tossed out via trebuchet would have told him, Stannis Fail. :thumbsdown: Oh yeah sure like he wouldve automatically assumed that, your being irrational, he wouldve thought it was just another one of Joeffreys hobbies because the little punk was nuts after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 It's not good generalship to attack blindly. Stannis is a fearless, hard, disciplined soldier but I think he needs someone with greater tactical and strategic acumen to advise him. Otherwise he makes very bad decisions. What should he have done? The city is there, he can't do more than seize the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pentos Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Exactly how was he to know? Employ spies. Like every other commander. It's not rocket science it's just reconnaissance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pentos Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 What should he have done? The city is there, he can't do more than seize the moment. He should have landed some troops and taken out that chain for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Atleast the antler-men being tossed out via trebuchet would have told him, Stannis Fail. :thumbsdown: You managed to say absolutely nothing. They were supporting Stannis, not his men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 No seriously, there have been already several threads that came to the conclusion that Stannis did no wrong in appointing Imry his fleet commander. Imry was supposed to land the troops at the mud gate, something which he actually did albeit, losing ships (which wasn't part of the plan). Tyrion's miscalculation just helped. No worries Stannis will get another shot at it if Aurane joins him and Saan comes back, all he really needs now is pirates becausof whats about to happen in KL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Stannis was the Commander. The strategy was his. I find it hard to fathom how the repairing of a massive iron chain could have gone unnoticed by someone who's plan was to sail up the BB and take KL. Did Stannis have no spies in the city he was trying to take? Oh, he knew. What he didn't knew was whether the chain would be ready in time, since it wasn't two days earlier. As Imry Florent knew. No seriously, there have been already several threads that came to the conclusion that Stannis did no wrong in appointing Imry his fleet commander. Imry was supposed to land the troops at the mud gate, something which he actually did albeit, losing ships (which wasn't part of the plan). Tyrion's miscalculation just helped. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbuster Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 It's not good generalship to attack blindly. Stannis is a fearless, hard, disciplined soldier but I think he needs someone with greater tactical and strategic acumen to advise him. Otherwise he makes very bad decisions. lolwut? His land battle against Mance Rayder, he arrives via ranger tracks and forms up in the rear, the rangers under his command feint and draw away Mance's mobilised forces, he then smashes them and attacks the different part of Mance's army piecemeal. Or perhaps this was Cotter "More heart than wits" Pyke's tactical brilliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chatty Duelist Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He should have landed some troops and taken out that chain for a start. You're awfully unbiased. I can't believe someone could be as thick as you. Ser Imry's at fault in that. Stannis was leading the land forces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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