LordQorgyle Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 But blackfire is a valyrian steel sword like Ice or Heartbane Dawn is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Warning Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Someone needs a Valryrian steel horseman's pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryanfury Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 If you are guarding a king that means you have an hability..Robb wouldn't put a guy that can't hold a sword in his guard No, it doesn't. Robb asked for protectors and people volunteered for the honour, the majority of which were sons of lords who had seen little to no combat that we know of. I really can't fathom how you seemingly believe that the Karstarks in question were highly experienced and skillful soldiers when there is absolutely no evidence for that. You're just making stuff up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I guy that guards a king has to have some skill son't matter what you say, and those three guys are from two of the most reputed familys in the North, they train with swors since they were childs so they are not some useless guys like Samwell...And i Darys and the Karstarks haven't proved nothing what has Rhaegar, Lord Grafton, Myles Mooton or Jon Connington had proved by the time of RR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secto Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Robert was a fuckin Terminator. Daynes Skull wouldve been crushed in seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelx Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 It's not stated that Dawn is better than Valyrian steel. It's just as sharp. That's about it. It just happens to have a legendary wielder. Robert was a fuckin Terminator. Daynes Skull wouldve been crushed in seconds Yeah. I agree. Don't know why Rhaegar manage to severely wound him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Crashing Waves Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 If Rhaegar was capable of wounding Robert I'd imagine Dayne would do much worse. My money's on Dayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryanfury Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I guy that guards a king has to have some skill son't matter what you say, and those three guys are from two of the most reputed familys in the North, they train with swors since they were childs so they are not some useless guys like Samwell...And i Darys and the Karstarks haven't proved nothing what has Rhaegar, Lord Grafton, Myles Mooton or Jon Connington had proved by the time of RR?No, there was no combat skill or physical prowess prerequisite for joining Robbs honour guard. There is no textual evidence to support your claims that the Karstark boys were skilled. You are just making it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 what you are saying doesn't make absolutely any sense a guy that protects a kinghave to be good with a sword i repeat have to be, Robb had an army to protect him why would he choose those guys if they weren't good?And has i say if there are no proof they were good that aren't also proves for the guys Robert killed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 And GEORGE has said that Dawn is better than VS and Barristan and Dayne were at the same level but Dayne with Dawn was unbeatable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryanfury Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 a guy that protects a kinghave to be good with a sword i repeat have to be, Robb had an army to protect him why would he choose those guys if they weren't good?No. He. Doesn't. For gods sake Robb takes volunteers. He does not look for the best fighters. Hy is this difiiculy for you? Read the book. Read the chapter. Robb's honour guard are green volunteers who for the most part have not seen actual combat. You keep saying otherwise but you aren't showing evidence, you just keep saying "they have to be good". No they dont. No they werent. And there IS textual evidence for Robert and the like. You are just unbelievably mistaken. There is no textual evidence that the Karstarks were skilled swordsmen. If you wat to say they were skilled, YOU have to prove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 And you have to prve that Roert kills were good swordsman since there is no prove you are just a Robert fan boy and you don't see that there is exactly the same evidences abou the Karstarks and Darys being good swordsmans as there is for Myles Mooton and the others..And if you have read the books you would know that there are a lot of characters that say that Robb keep himself surrounded by his guards all the time and that they are the best young warriors in the north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryanfury Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I'm sorry, I can't understand your posts. They appear to refer to a completely different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Yeah you surely didn't read the books or you are so obcessed with Robert that you memory erased things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadwood Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Arthur Dayne is the best warrior that has ever lived. GRRM said he is unbeatable with Dawn Is there a link for that please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fallen Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 ` I don't think he's said best ever. But I think the insinuation is that in Ned's lifetime Arthur Dayne was tops, with Barristan right behind him (really only coming down to Arthur having Dawn). And in my opinion, Jaime comes in right after them. But some may have Jaime second. I'm not sure how the three of them stack up against other legendary fighters such as Daemon Blackfyre, Aemon the Dragonknight, Cregan Stark, the other Sword of the Morning we've heard about, etc ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raegal_targaryen Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Well daemon blackfyre is unrival in terms of skill he had mastered every weapon and was unbeatable with with blackfyre in hand, going toe to toe with him was was suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 For me the best warriors ever areAemon The DragonknightDaemon BlackfireJaime LannisterArthur DayneBarristan SelmyCregan stark Who's the best of them?I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkEye Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Do you think Robert could take The Mountain? I think he could... His warhammer would crush bones no matter where it hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Really no..Since the big advantage for Robert against other guy is his size and against the mountain it wouldn't have effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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