larastone Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 these troll posts need to stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Maybe badass is the wrong word. He is, at least, competent at most things and clearly a good HotK/adminstrator. yeah he's competent in the sense that he's good at progressing house lannister. otherwise he's a tyrannical war criminal and terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 yeah he's competent in the sense that he's good at progressing house lannister. otherwise he's a tyrannical war criminal and terrorist. Those things aren't mutually exclusive. Plenty of tyrannical war criminals have been good administrators. Generally speaking, someone in power =/= terrorist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Those things aren't mutually exclusive. Plenty of tyrannical war criminals have been good administrators. Generally speaking, someone in power =/= terrorist except the red wedding is easily one of the biggest acts of terrorism in the books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salafi Stannis Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 except the red wedding is easily one of the biggest acts of terrorism in the books I was freakin' joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Nope, it was the ruling government dealing with an enemy with whom it was at war. way to completely miss such a significant aspect of the books. i'm taking you took tywin's words of "how is it worse to kill a dozen people at a wedding" to heart huh?? sorry can't take you seriously anymore bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salafi Stannis Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 way to completely miss such a significant aspect of the books. i'm taking you took tywin's words of "how is it worse to kill a dozen people at a wedding" to heart huh?? sorry can't take you seriously anymore bye Relax I was joking, jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larastone Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Relax I was joking, jeez. lol sure you were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salafi Stannis Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I condoned what is considered by the entire fanbase and even most of the primitive people in the ASOIAF universe to be one of the most abhorrent crimes imaginable, yeah I was joking, in the same way the OP, who is saying one of the most evil and unlikable people in the ASOIAF universe is actually a good person, is also joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 except the red wedding is easily one of the biggest acts of terrorism in the books Well no. It would be a war crime as the Lannisters are in power. If anyone were considered a terrorist, it would be Robb's forces, not that I am endorsing that POV. The RW is clearly the work of an oppressive government. That's why the Freys and Boltons are getting letters of reprieve and the RL lords are getting pardoned as well. Obviously the victor writes the history books, but I doubt you'll find many descriptions of a government in power being accused of terrorism vs a war crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salafi Stannis Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 lol sure you were I condoned what is considered by the entire fanbase and even most of the primitive people in the ASOIAF universe to be one of the most abhorrent crimes imaginable, yeah I was joking, in the same way the OP, who is saying one of the most evil and unlikable people in the ASOIAF universe is actually a good person, is also joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Discrimination against the mentally ill is not acceptable in this thread. This might be the only thing that I will ever agree with AHM, the fact that someone suffers from a mental illness doesn't mean that people have the right to make fun of him/her. However I would love to ask the OP, what do you believe of Cersei f@@@@ Jaime the morning of her marriage, something that shows that she was never willing to try in order to work out her marriage and why is that ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrienneofQarth Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Couldn't agree more with this thread. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I mean, Cersei is just so much better as a woman, on all levels, than Cat - think about it - if Cersei had felt threatened by one of Robert's bastards, she would have given said bastard a nice, quick, clean, death. While, Cat, horrid, horrid Cat, makes Ned's bastard feel bad. So much worse. And equally, Cersei would never have hurt LF's feelings like Cat did; she's have just slept with LF and Ned, or Mikken, or Jory, or Edmure or whoever was handsome... She's much more liberated like that. And she's hotter. All hail the Queen Regent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 This might be the only thing that I will ever agree with AHM, the fact that someone suffers from a mental illness doesn't mean that people have the right to make fun of him/her. However I would love to ask the OP, what do you believe of Cersei f@@@@ Jaime the morning of her marriage, something that shows that she was never willing to try in order to work out her marriage and why is that ok.It's a troll JQC. Don't feed it, it might go awayEDIT: DQC now, grr, I keep forgetting! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Of Thrones Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 A troll feeds on those who come to kill it. For no one may defeat a troll. But if no one fights the troll, the troll starves to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 It's a troll JQC. Don't feed it, it might go awayEDIT: DQC now, grr, I keep forgetting! :PI know but I seriously wanted to know, maybe it was the same way she gave birth to Tyrion and couldn't remember it. HA! You correct yourself! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Highborn Maid Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 Tywin's more likeable because he's a badass. You see, this is the patriarchal bias I am talking about. Would Cersei honestly be more likable if her scheming bore more fruit? Or if she had swagger? Or is it because she's a golden haired beauty fighting in a man's world? Do you know how much harder it is for a woman to succeed in Westeros/Essos? Even high born women still have to endure men lording their superiority. The exception is Dany, and that's only because of her dragons. Without them she would have been cut into seventeen pieces and sold at the flea bottom market as dog food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Highborn Maid Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 However I would love to ask the OP, what do you believe of Cersei f@@@@ Jaime the morning of her marriage, something that shows that she was never willing to try in order to work out her marriage and why is that ok. I think that marriage in Westeros is a farce, and Robert was going to be disloyal no matter what, so i admire Cersei for following her heart and doing her best to keep brute Robert away from her garden. Contrary to popular belief, Cersei is not a slut, she has a total of four sexual partners and two of those happened post-purple wedding (which marks her descent). Sorry for double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBlood Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I was freakin' joking. Relax I was joking, jeez. I think that is most of the problem with the posts of yours I have seen. :bang: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salafi Stannis Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 You see, this is the patriarchal bias I am talking about. Everytime I attack Cersei you accuse me of being misogynistic. I don't like that feminism is being highjacked by loonies like you who think any criticism of a female character is misogyny, jeez you probably think that all PIV is rape aswell. Yours sincerely, an actual real feminist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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