Brown Ben Plumm ancestry

[Queen Rhaenyra]

Didn't realize that one of Aegon the Unworthy 's mistresses were of African descent - the Black Pearl of Braavos. Could this be where he got his two drops of dragon blood?

[40 Thousand Skeletons]

Welcome to the boards!

IIRC the 2 drops referred to by Tyrion are from

1) Elaena Targaryen who was married to Ossifer Plumm and

2) Aegon IV who was rumored to have slept with his cousin Elaena and was therefore the biological father of her Plumm son (and not Ossifer).

[Queen Rhaenyra]

Thanks!! I lurk a lot. Isn't that just speculation tho? I just found it interesting that one mistress was black. But thanks for the clarification

[Daemon Blackfyre IV]

Your not altogether wrong on this I have a theory somewhere posted that wile house Plumm did turn full on Targaryen in the Plumm name I believe one of Viserys Plumms son's married one of the Black Pearl and King Aegons daughters

[Rhaenys_Targaryen]

Viserys Plumm was rumoured to have been fathered by Aegon IV, as Ossifer Plumm died whilst bedding Elaena Targaryen on heir wedding night.

Viserys had multiple sons, and a younger one of those sons would seem to either have been Bens father or grandfather - I'd have to check my notes.

[Mithras]

Your branch sprouted from a stone spit across the narrow sea, no doubt. A younger son of Viserys Plumm, I’d wager.

Dany giggled like a little girl. “Did your grandmother claim she’d actually seen this prodigy [Ossifer's six feet cock]?”

“That the old crone never did. She was half-Ibbenese and half-Qohorik, never been to Westeros, my grandfather must have told her. Some Dothraki killed him before I was born.”

“And where did your grandfather’s knowledge come from?”

“One of them tales told at the teat, I’d guess.” Brown Ben shrugged. “That’s all I know about Aegon the Unnumbered or old Lord Plumm’s mighty manhood, I fear. I best see to my Sons.”

I guess the grandfather of BBP was a grandson of Viserys Plumm.

[Rhaenys_Targaryen]

Perhaps Bens grandfather having been Viserys' younger son is more likely. House Plumm lost all of its wealth after Ossifer died, when Aegon IV simply took it all. Viserys would probably have had a rather good position, as his mother served at court in the Small Council, as did his stepfather, but his own children would find themselves in more difficulty, probably, financially speaking. That a younger son of Viserys would go across the Narrow Sea to find wealth isn't a strange thing..

Once across the Narrow Sea, he met his half-Ibbenese, half-Qohorik wife..

Viserys was born in 176/177 AC, and thus his sons would start being born in 200-210 AC most likely. Ben Plumm is an "aging" man, so I would guess in his 50ties? Placing his birth around 250 AC. With only a father in between, that would place his birth in roughly 225/230 AC.

Placing another generation in between makes all of them rather young when marrying and fathering a child. Sellswords and such would first want to make money, before settling down, I´d say.