sammy~two~swords Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 A 1000 league's is the distance Yoren says it is from Kings Landing to the Wall . This ,of course was said in the show , I cant recall him saying it in the book . Anyway , is the distance rubbish & the show just got it wrong ? or is it really 1000 league's in distance & if so how far is that in km ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karabas Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 According to Google, a league is 5.56km Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy~two~swords Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Surely the tv show has it wrong then because im sure the distance isn't up near 5000 km . Does anybody know the distance from Kings Landing to the wall ? maybe they meant a 1000 km or miles ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ambolt Dorseaux Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It's about 300 miles. The league is based off of how far you could walk in one hour, which is why it is rather obsolete. I base this off of an old saying in China "Amongst men, Lu Bu. Amongst horses, Red Hare". There was a horse called Red Hare that could travel 1000 leagues in a day, which is also stated as 300 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gneisenau Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It's about 300 miles. The league is based off of how far you could walk in one hour, which is why it is rather obsolete. I base this off of an old saying in China "Amongst men, Lu Bu. Amongst horses, Red Hare". There was a horse called Red Hare that could travel 1000 leagues in a day, which is also stated as 300 miles. It seems a bit weird to use a Chinese source for an english word ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ambolt Dorseaux Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It seems a bit weird to use a Chinese source for an english word ? It seems to be more of a military word rather than a cultural one. It was common for many militaries to measure distance by how long they were marching. League itself is a European word, the method seems to be near-universal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 "League" has had multiple definitions. In the english speaking world, it's typically 3 miles on land or 3 nautical miles (5.56km) at sea. google "1000 leagues in kilometers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gneisenau Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It seems to be more of a military word rather than a cultural one. It was common for many militaries to measure distance by how long they were marching. League itself is a European word, the method seems to be near-universal. You cited an english source translating a chinese text. The word league is English, the translator just used the league as an equivalent to whatever Chinese word used, but doesn't mean it is the same. Ancient China was ruled by Emperors, but emperor is merely an equivalent term for the Chinese ruler (who was called a Huangdi). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ambolt Dorseaux Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 "League" has had multiple definitions. In the english speaking world, it's typically 3 miles on land or 3 nautical miles (5.56km) at sea. google "1000 leagues in kilometers" Yes. The mistake was my own. I was remembering it as league=1/3 mile rather than mile=1/3 league. Then it would be more than 3000 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ambolt Dorseaux Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 You cited an english source translating a chinese text. The word league is English, the translator just used the league as an equivalent to whatever Chinese word used, but doesn't mean it is the same. Ancient China was ruled by Emperors, but emperor is merely an equivalent term for the Chinese ruler (who was called a Huangdi). I have to ask, have you read Romance of the Three Kingdoms, attributed to Luo Guanzhong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gneisenau Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I have to ask, have you read Romance of the Three Kingdoms, attributed to Luo Guanzhong? Why ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I remember Robert mentioning that the trip from KL to WF took "month" or "months". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ambolt Dorseaux Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Why ? Just curious. The fellow i mentioned, Lu Bu, is a major character in the book. So few people i know have read it and i lament trying to find other fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shmewdog Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I only know Lu Bu from Dynasty Warriors, and not to pursue him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ambolt Dorseaux Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I only know Lu Bu from Dynasty Warriors, and not to pursue him. Exactly, that game itself is based off of Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Lu Bu is kind of the Gregor Clegane/Jaime Lannister of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaDeBrun Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 A terrestrial league is nearly universally defined as the distance that a man can walk in an hour. This exact distance that this implies varies by time and place, but is usually about three miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajamacowboy Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It's about 300 miles. The league is based off of how far you could walk in one hour, which is why it is rather obsolete. I base this off of an old saying in China "Amongst men, Lu Bu. Amongst horses, Red Hare". There was a horse called Red Hare that could travel 1000 leagues in a day, which is also stated as 300 miles. I've rode horses all my life and if red hare ever existed he's a better pony than any I have ever rode by a lot . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cladinator Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It could be an error. Or it could be explained as Yoren's gruff simplicity (an exaggeration). Example: Like saying something is far away by saying it is a million miles away or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mychel_Redfort Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It looks like distances over a hundred leagues are a manner of speaking to say far away. A thousand leagues is used by Ned and Cersei for the distance between King's Landing and the Eyrie, but Arya thinks Jon at the Wall is a thousand leagues from her when she's with Sandor at the Trident, though it's twice as far. When he's fleeing the wights in the Haunted Forest, Sam thinks his mother and sisters are safe a thousand of leagues south, and Jon thinks it's curious to hear Mance sing The Dornishman's Wife near the Milkwater, ten thousand leagues from Dorne ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 King's Laniding, from memory, as I don't have my map handy, is roughly about 1800 miles from the Wall as the crow flies. I can easily see that distance being closer to 2500 miles as a man walks along the winding roads following the lay of the land back and forth between rivers, hills, forests and swamps.In that light, a thousand leagues is not a bad guestimate, for a medieval common man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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