BalerionTheCat Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I read another thread yesterday, Blede was thinking that Littlefinger was poisoning Boros. He referred to ADWD epilogue and Kevan noting that Blount looked ill: He did not look well. Of late Boros had grown notably heavier about the face and belly, and his color was not good. I read the whole passage and remembered that Blount was assigned to testing Tommen's food. Blount may be ill for any reason, but it is not just a passing inconvenience. It could be poisoning, or some natural but fatal disease. But GRRM must have some purpose here. And for me, the red alert was "poison" and "Tommen's food taster". But why would Tommen be healthy while Blount is ill? I Thought about that this morning and then... Mithridate, or building resistance to poison. Something from the Middle Age and Antiquity. Someone is putting arsenic or similar into Blount own food, not Tommen. Increasing Blount's resistance. Later they will put a deadly dose for a young boy in Tommen's food. Blount will taste it but will feel nothing. Who will be doing it? Blede was thinking Littlefinger, but for another purpose. Littlefinger is indeed possible. He poisoned Joffrey. But poisoning another of Cersei's sons would be too much IMO. Killing Tommen now would only weaken the Tyrells, the supposed LF's allies, and facilitate fAegon's conquest, and finally restore the 7K stability. Not what LF needs. Varys has my preference. Killing Tommen should help fAegon's conquest. Varys and fAegon will be the first beneficiaries of Tommen's death. Poisoning Tommen this way is much more complex that what LF did with Joffrey. I believe the Spider is better suited for such a task. But why using this complicated way, when an assassin, a good archer for example, would suffice? But to piss Cersei, who precisely had taken measures against food poisoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterHydraCP Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Maybe Varys wants it to look like some sickness was the cause and if both Boros and Tommen would die of the same 'disease' it would be obvious that they were poisoned. Idk why would Varys want that, maybe because he doesn't want Aegon to be associated with killing children, wants to keep Aegon's honor intact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Maybe Varys wants it to look like some sickness was the cause and if both Boros and Tommen would die of the same 'disease' it would be obvious that they were poisoned. Idk why would Varys want that, maybe because he doesn't want Aegon to be associated with killing children, wants to keep Aegon's honor intact? Varys would not want fAegon to be associated with Tommen's death. Poison is the weapon of traitors and women. Cersei will be happy to blame Tyrion and Sansa again. If Tyrion is associated with Daenerys, she will get the blame too. But Varys is not known to be in KL. No one should connect Tommen's death with Varys and fAegon. ETA: No one will fool Qyburn. Tommen's poisoning cannot be masqueraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronfried_IV Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 What about the Dornish fraction in Kings Landing trying to poison our sweet little Tommen? They seem to be in bed with Aegon as well, if they know the plan or just follow orders by the Martells?And Tommen does not show signs of poison yet does he? A childish immunsystem like tommens should show a strong sign of poison if the tester already shows some signs... After all Boros is bigger than him and probably takes less poison since he just tries the food, while tommen eats the Lions-(hihi)share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterHydraCP Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Yup probably Qyburn would detect poison after Tommen's death. But not every plan is perfect, even geniuses make mistakes (and I think that Varys is a genius). He could be using his little birds to poison the food. But, yeah I'm not certain that Varys is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalerionTheCat Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 What about the Dornish fraction in Kings Landing trying to poison our sweet little Tommen? They seem to be in bed with Aegon as well, if they know the plan or just follow orders by the Martells? And Tommen does not show signs of poison yet does he? A childish immunsystem like tommens should show a strong sign of poison if the tester already shows some signs... After all Boros is bigger than him and probably takes less poison since he just tries the food, while tommen eats the Lions-(hihi)share. You didn't read: Only Boros is receiving the poison for now. Tommen will receive a massive dose later. And yes, the Dornish could be blamed too, particularly Tyene who is coming to KL, IIFRC. The Dornish should be fAeron allies. Varys would not want fAegon to be viewed as accomplice in Tommen poisoning. Tommen should not live long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronfried_IV Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 You didn't read: Only Boros is receiving the poison for now. Tommen will receive a massive dose later. And yes, the Dornish could be blamed too, particularly Tyene who is coming to KL, IIFRC. The Dornish should be fAeron allies. Varys would not want fAegon to be viewed as accomplice in Tommen poisoning. Tommen should not live long now. yep totally overread that sorry. The plan could work since at the moment for the both LF and Varys, Tommen is a king they are happy with, he can't decide anything and with Cersei regaining power the chaos they want will continue until the final blow, in this case poison, will be dealt. But it's rather risky since you don't know when to deal it and building up a resistance is a rather long process and you never know it will be enough in the end. A simple assasin kill at the right moment would be way easier. Especially for someone like varys that knows the secret corridors in the red keep like noone else. He could easily just sneak in at night and kill the little boywonder at the right moment. His birds could do it, or he himself since noone knows he is even there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Sansa Stark Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 While I don't have a detailed scenario of how Tommen will die I am almost certain that Varys will be the one to orchestrate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Redwyne Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 He will actually choke with pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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