redeagl Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think that this battle have been heavilly forshadowed. And i think that it will happen but when and why ? When do you think it might happen and who will be battling who ? i don't know but what do you think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 The Vale is one of the only large armies left. They're just sitting in the mountains like Chekhov's gun waiting to be fired. The in-story thinking is that Sweetrobin will die, Harry the Heir and his newly revealed bride Sansa will take their army North and reclaim Winterfell, so we all know that's what's not going to happen. As long as Robert Arryn stubbornly refuses to die, Littlefinger will have to keep up his charade. While much has been said of the Grand Northern Conspiracy, we only have a few biased views of the Vale Lords who would like to rid themselves of the Lord Protector. There could be something cooking there. At this point, it's not in anyone's best interest to attack the Vale (except the hill clans), but that could change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Bastard Snow Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 With Winter Coming isn't the Vale one of the most easily defensible locations in Westeros?IIRC the passes to get to the Vale are more snowed in then Caradhras pass. Which makes any army have to take the bloody gates.Which have more than earned that name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 With Winter Coming isn't the Vale one of the most easily defensible locations in Westeros?IIRC the passes to get to the Vale are more snowed in then Caradhras pass. Which makes any army have to take the bloody gates.Which have more than earned that name. Unless they attack by sea as the Andals did. The Eyrie and the gate castles are nigh impossible to take, but I don't know how defended Gulltown is. The Lords of the Vale can't hide in their castles while the shores are attacked. Now, who might attack by sea? The Iron Born do nothing but attack by sea, but that's a pretty long ways off from either Euron or Victarion. (f)Aegon has some ships, though I'd hesitate to call it a navy. Aurane Waters stole the Lannister's ships but may be content harassing trade ships. The Redwyne fleet has problems of its own. Manderly apparently has a fleet in White Harbor- which is certainly close enough, but I'm not sure what his motivation would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Vale armies will be used by Dany in the Second Dance. I do not expect a battle at the Vale though. The Second Dance will take place in the South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Unless they attack by sea as the Andals did. The Eyrie and the gate castles are nigh impossible to take, but I don't know how defended Gulltown is. The Lords of the Vale can't hide in their castles while the shores are attacked. They very much can - nobody cares about a couple dead fishermen and a couple raped fishwives. All while the winter storms wreck any fleets, scatter supplies and the damn (wet) cold costs fingers, toes and ultimately lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 They very much can - nobody cares about a couple dead fishermen and a couple raped fishwives. Maybe not, but they care about the ability to get food and other goods into the Vale during the winter. Losing their primary ports would complicate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyser1 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 The Vale is one of the only large armies left. They're just sitting in the mountains like Chekhov's gun waiting to be fired. The in-story thinking is that Sweetrobin will die, Harry the Heir and his newly revealed bride Sansa will take their army North and reclaim Winterfell, so we all know that's what's not going to happen. As long as Robert Arryn stubbornly refuses to die, Littlefinger will have to keep up his charade. While much has been said of the Grand Northern Conspiracy, we only have a few biased views of the Vale Lords who would like to rid themselves of the Lord Protector. There could be something cooking there. At this point, it's not in anyone's best interest to attack the Vale (except the hill clans), but that could change. An unexpected Harry the heir death would be a nice twist to the plot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 An unexpected Harry the heir death would be a nice twist to the plot... Is any death in this series unexpected anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Maybe not, but they care about the ability to get food and other goods into the Vale during the winter. Losing their primary ports would complicate that. Their primary ports are fortified. Indeed, they are below their castles. Any invader would have fun besieging those. Nothing like surviving frost in thin tents or trying to place a ladder upon icy surfaces while the defenders enjoy their warm fires and sufficient winter storages. The Vale exports food anyway. They don't need the ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyser1 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Is any death in this series unexpected anymore? Arya Stark and Samwell Tarly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Arya Stark and Samwell Tarly. With Sam in Old Town with plentiful food and books in place of training, it's just a matter of time until he succumbs to heart disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogossos Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Vale armies will be used by Dany in the Second Dance. I do not expect a battle at the Vale though. The Second Dance will take place in the South. I'm thinking Riverlands/North, to defend the realm against the Others invasion. That's why Sansa is there, to help galvanise when Jon or Dany comes calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Bastard Snow Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I really hope The Knight of Ninestars helps Sansa or Jon.He seems like a cool guy. Would also be interesting for the Three Sisters to aid Jon as iirc King Jon reked their shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceFire125 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 It will almost mirror what happened with Visenya. Dany will ride Drogon, land in the castle's inner courtyard, and Robert will want to ride it, thus there will be no bloodshed spilled taking the Vale. They will fight with Dany against fAegon in Dance 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 It will almost mirror what happened with Visenya. Dany will ride Drogon, land in the castle's inner courtyard, and Robert will want to ride it, thus there will be no bloodshed spilled taking the Vale. They will fight with Dany against fAegon in Dance 2.0. Visenya knew how to control her Dragon. Dany doesn't. We could end up seeing a perversion of the original event where the dragon kills Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Bastard Snow Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Visenya knew how to control her Dragon. Dany doesn't. We could end up seeing a perversion of the original event where the dragon kills Robert.Would be ironic if he died from falling off a dragon. MAKE HIM FLY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blow My Horn Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Hmm so Manderly finds out about Sansa and sends his fleet to transport the Vale armies. Having Rickon, Sansa and RaeJon reunited for the second dance would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Dany didn't fall off Drogon when he landed on a running horse breaking its spine in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceFire125 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Visenya knew how to control her Dragon. Dany doesn't. We could end up seeing a perversion of the original event where the dragon kills Robert. The girl just had her first flight. Give it time. Yes, the possibility of Drogon ending up burning and eating Robert if he tries to play with him, is also high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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