#1dolFAN Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Man oh man I still see Sir Duncan hooking up with The Red Widow in my dreams She was a cute lil freckled nosed thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dacey Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I find it quite disturbing to talk about relationships in terms of “deserving”... I mean, Rohanne Webber is a woman, not a prize. A person, not a possession. A subject, not an object. And so on. But I digress. I actually came here to say I agree with you, I would have liked to see Rohanne and Dunk having a relationship. Maybe they did get together in the end, years later, after Rohanne Lannister disappeared without a trace... maybe she escaped her castle to live a forbidden love affair with the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 On 11/27/2019 at 9:59 AM, Lady Dacey said: I find it quite disturbing to talk about relationships in terms of “deserving”... I mean, Rohanne Webber is a woman, not a prize. A person, not a possession. A subject, not an object. And so on. Normally I would agree with you, but she literally rues that he's not "better born." So it is *literally* a value judgment by her on something he has no control over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagini's Neville Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 On 27. November 2019 at 4:59 PM, Lady Dacey said: I find it quite disturbing to talk about relationships in terms of “deserving”... I mean, Rohanne Webber is a woman, not a prize. A person, not a possession. A subject, not an object. And so on. But I digress. I actually came here to say I agree with you, I would have liked to see Rohanne and Dunk having a relationship. Maybe they did get together in the end, years later, after Rohanne Lannister disappeared without a trace... maybe she escaped her castle to live a forbidden love affair with the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard? I agree and I also don't like it btw, when ppl refer to women as things. Not that OP would care about my opinion here. But I just thought I'd share Not to be taken to seriously though, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dacey Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Universal Sword Donor said: Normally I would agree with you, but she literally rues that he's not "better born." So it is *literally* a value judgment by her on something he has no control over. Only this post is not by Rohanne Webber, it was instead written by a 21st century book-reader. In-universe, if we look at it through a watsonian lens, Dunk does not deserve her. In the real world, if we discuss it through a doylist perspective, we should not be talking about a woman as a thing one can deserve or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Lady Dacey said: Only this post is not by Rohanne Webber, it was instead written by a 21st century book-reader. In-universe, if we look at it through a watsonian lens, Dunk does not deserve her. In the real world, if we discuss it through a doylist perspective, we should not be talking about a woman as a thing one can deserve or not. In the real world, if we discuss it through a doylist perspective, we should not be talking about a man as a thing one can deserve or not. Fixed that for you. If what you got out of that passage was that Lady Rohanne was something to be deserved, I can't really explain to you why GRRM didn't intend that and how obvious that should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dacey Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Universal Sword Donor said: In the real world, if we discuss it through a doylist perspective, we should not be talking about a man as a thing one can deserve or not. Fixed that for you. If what you got out of that passage was that Lady Rohanne was something to be deserved, I can't really explain to you why GRRM didn't intend that and how obvious that should be. I’m not commenting on GRRM, I’m commenting on the OP’s choice of words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1dolFAN Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 11/29/2019 at 10:32 AM, Nagini's Neville said: I agree and I also don't like it btw, when ppl refer to women as things. Not that OP would care about my opinion here. But I just thought I'd share Not to be taken to seriously though, please. I respect your opinion. I’m just in Dunk’s corner so when I see him fall for a girl, whether it be Miss “Too Tall” (but she wasn’t too tall for him) or Lady Rohanne, whom I speak of being deserving of him, I consider me calling her a “prize” a compliment. His actions in protecting her and his kind conduct towards her compels me to feel that a match between them would be “well deserved”.. on both ends, really! Alas, the medieval red-tape of aristocracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sidious Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 On 11/26/2019 at 8:10 PM, #1dolFAN said: Man oh man I still see Sir Duncan hooking up with The Red Widow in my dreams She was a cute lil freckled nosed thing We have a big difference of opinion in what is cute! Oh very well, I suppose it's how Duncan sees her. Peace there O/P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1dolFAN Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Dothraki Khal said: We have a big difference of opinion in what is cute! Oh very well, I suppose it's how Duncan sees her. Peace there O/P. You didn’t see her illustration in A Knight Of The Seven Kingdoms? She WAS cute! Especially with that long, long braid just made for tuggin’ on =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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