astarkchoice Posted January 27, 2024 Share Posted January 27, 2024 25 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Explain how Dothraki are supposed to survive in a desert for any real length of time? Me or the other guy ? His putting his response into my quote has thrown me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted January 27, 2024 Share Posted January 27, 2024 35 minutes ago, astarkchoice said: Me or the other guy ? His putting his response into my quote has thrown me Other guy who seemed to think they could just chase the Dornish around the desert. astarkchoice and Aldarion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted January 29, 2024 Share Posted January 29, 2024 (edited) On 1/27/2024 at 8:19 PM, Craving Peaches said: Other guy who seemed to think they could just chase the Dornish around the desert. Oooh you can its just never ended well for anyone But overall feel the unsullied are just too small a force to do much with now they can be used in all kinds of special ops you can dream up like taking small strategic postions (esp as they can mountain climb) or kamizaze attacks ( even a few hundred could keep an enemy army awake while yours sleeps.sound) but most likely they will form a oversized bodyguard detail for dany (she has learned with jorah and her father + jamie king/queensguard cant be 100% trusted) and provide the professional backbome to a force of slaves! someone to ensure camp is set up right, drill them in weapons and marching and formations, someone to march fast enough ahead of main body to secure positions so the bulk of slow moving former slaves dont get them.pinned into an unfavourable.battlefield etc etc The more we look at the small numbers astopor can produce esp when we scale it vs the old giant scale wars vs valyria we can assume the old unsullied had 2 main roles , 100%loyal bodyguards and a sucidial force used to possible rush sleeping/downed or injured dragons for the old ghiscari (if fanatic peasants at kingslanding could kill a few we can assume roboslaves with spears by the hundred can too!) It would make a sort of sense that they are dulled.to.pain as they may need to continue stabbing even as they burn to death! Edited January 29, 2024 by astarkchoice Aldarion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoth the raven, Posted July 27, 2024 Share Posted July 27, 2024 On 10/25/2022 at 10:32 AM, Only 89 selfies today said: From our favorite author himself. Listen to what George said about Dany's Unsullied soldiers. This should put away all doubts as to how well they will do in Westeros. The Unsullied will be superb in battle. They will be better with the addition of the Dothraki. Dany will have the advantage in battle in Westeros. The arguments that The Unsullied are ineffective soldiers do not hold water. Yes. The difference between professionals like Dany's soldiers, the Unsullied, and the part-time military that Westeros can offer. Dany enjoys the guarantee of skills and professionalism within her troops. Westeros has nothing equivalent. Son of Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldarion Posted July 28, 2024 Share Posted July 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Quoth the raven, said: Yes. The difference between professionals like Dany's soldiers, the Unsullied, and the part-time military that Westeros can offer. Dany enjoys the guarantee of skills and professionalism within her troops. Westeros has nothing equivalent. Yet part-time soldiers are often better than professionals. And even when they are not outright better, they are nearly always more cost-effective. Literally the only thing where full-time professional soldiers are always better is propping up unpopular government. https://warfantasy.wordpress.com/2024/05/23/building-a-fantasy-army-part-5-recruitment/ And all of this is ignoring basically two thousand years of technological and tactical advantage that the Westerosi troops have over the Unsullied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted July 28, 2024 Share Posted July 28, 2024 (edited) 17 hours ago, Quoth the raven, said: Yes. The difference between professionals like Dany's soldiers, the Unsullied, and the part-time military that Westeros can offer. Dany enjoys the guarantee of skills and professionalism within her troops. Westeros has nothing equivalent. Westeros has probably as many 'professionals' as dany has if not more The knights and lords have been trained from birth and the unsullieds own sellers admit they are no match one vs one. Their role as nobility involves being warriors every bit as much part of their 'profession' as fancy balls , holding court and managing estates! Then theres the various freeriders/sellswords with no other occupation. The other forces will be either full time or part time. Many of the men at arms around the keeps patrolling the lands keeping them crime/bandit free will be full time or close enough. The rest either part time farmer warriors OR professionals sent by a couple of farmers pooling funds to pay for a big strong local to be ready to go to war rather than go themselves. Interms of battlefield performance theyl probably do ok..but theres only 7k of them for a stupidly high training price, you could probably screen out 90% of the stupid stuff in their training+ recruitment andhave raised a force of like 21k (one in 3 survive) in a fraction of the time too. Edited July 28, 2024 by astarkchoice Aldarion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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