Fun Guy from Yuggoth Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 The Planets and the Stranger I think the gods in Faith of the Seven are the planets like in Greek and Roman mythology, the Greeks treated Venus Morningstar and Venus Evenstar as separate gods, Eosphorus and Hesperus, and I think George adopted that idea the Warrior is Mercury; ---a Merc is a warrior for hire, because it's orbit is fast Mercury is quicksilver in Alchemy, mercurial means "to have a volatile temperament" like a warrior the Maiden is Venus Morningstar; ---the brightest planet, Aphrodite is a maiden, rises in morning, represents youth and beauty and love, (venus means "beautiful" in Latin) and is a fertility goddess, is Lemon colored, in alchemy its metal is copper and Aphrodite has red hair the Mother is Venus Eveningstar; ---the Mother is a fertility goddess, and the Mother is the Maiden later in life after she has fulfilled her role as fertility goddess, but still bright and beautiful. the Smith is Mars; ---in Hindi the word for "Mars, red, blood" is right next to the word for "smith, forge" lohit, lohar In alchemy, Mars and its symbol, a stylized shield and sword, were used to represent the element iron. (Mars is important to Martin because Mars is called Mairt in Gaelic.) the Father is Jupiter; ---the word Jupiter means "sky father" in Latin, its metal is tin is alchemy (stannus means "tin") the Crone is Saturn; ---Saturn is Cronos in Greek, it is the slowest visible planet, its metal is lead and the Crone's Lantern "leads the way" the Stranger is a black planet that is wanderer from far places; (Planet X, Aex means "goat" in Latin and Greek, so the Planet Aex is Yuggoth) ---The God of Death, is an outcast, unknown and unknowable, without a regular orbit. The other planets have defined genders, but the Stranger is both male and female because it is the Black Goat Baphomet, which is a hermaphrodite, and the Stranger is more and less than human and Baphomet is a half-human/half-goat god, and Baphomet in his classic depictions is twice associated with a black planet--he is pointing at a black moon and he is sitting on a black moon (very reminiscent of Satan's infernal council by John Martin, where Satan is sitting on a black orb) and the Stranger is a black oval with stars for eyes. The Stranger The word "occult" means "hidden, concealed, secret" and in astronomy it means "one heavenly body (as the moon or a planet) hiding another (as a star, or a satellite) from view, by passing in front of it" And the Occult is the worship of Baphomet, the Black Goat, and the Black Goat causes eclipses. I have posted previously that the God they worship at the Church of Starry Wisdom is the Black Goat/the Stranger. In the World of Ice and Fire, all the maps of Westeros have these little glyphs on them that depict a partially occulted/eclipsed black sphere, a goat's horn, a depiction of a shadow, all inside a bell. I think these are drawing our attention to the Shadow planet. Yuggoth partially comes from the Welsh word for "shadow" ysgod, Maester Luwin was an astronomer who made "shadow maps" --that is, star charts that show the track of something occulting the stars. lliwen means "goat" in Welsh and luaineach means "wandering" in Gaelic and luighe means "cauldron, kettle" and luan means "moon" and "Judgment Day" and llewen means "focus"--Luwin was mapping the movements of the Stranger, the wandering black moon as it occulted known stars on his star chart. And in The Whisperer in Darkness, part of the plot is that the fungi from Yuggoth will telepathically get Earth's astronomers to discover the Black Goat / the Shadow with their telescopes. In Lovecraft's stories, Nyarlathotep ("the Black Stone") is called the "mad, faceless god" and it is another name for Yuggoth / the Black Goat / Shub Niggurath which means "wandering/mad Black Goat" so the idea that the black wandering planet is known as a "faceless god" because it has no visible surface--it is hooded, or concealed. And in the story that introduced the Church of Starry Wisdom, the shrine to the Black Goat/Nyarlathotep ("the black stone") is seven-sided and everything is in multiples of seven. And the Stranger is one of the Seven, and is the seventh planet. Because in Welsh the word for seven is saith /seith, and the word for Satan is sathan. The Seventh Planet is Satan. And one of the names of the Black Goat is Yog Sothoth, which is "Yuggoth" with "saith / sath" in the middle. And in The Dunwich Horror, Yog Sothoth is an invisible moving mountain that tramples everything in its path, and sathr means "to trample" and Baphomet is a satyr. satyr ~ sath ~ sathr ~ saith Cthulhu is also a "mountain that walks" and cwth means "goat" In Arthur Machen's the Great God Pan, there is a hidden world parallel to ours, and to glimpse it is "to see the Great God Pan" and to see it destroys your mind. hwdwl means "stark mad" and hwrdd means "goat" and hoedus means "goat" in Latin, and I think Hodor saw the Black Goat and lost his mind and he has been trying to tell us what he saw. hudiwr means "deceiver" in Welsh and hudwy means "phantom, delusive vision" and hudd-- means "shade/shading/covering" and "darkening over" and hwdwg means "bugbear"/"hobgoblin"/"object of dread" We are told that Planetos used to have two moons, and one cracked during an eclipse and gave birth to dragons. I think this idea comes from Jack Vance's Dying Earth series, where there is an invisible second moon that dragon-like alien creatures came from. And from Jack Vance's Dragon Masters, where a planet with a very eccentric orbit comes close enough to Earth that dragons can land on our planet and they terrorize and enslave humans. Vance was probably inspired by Lovecraft's Yuggoth. The Stranger's name So, I think its clear that George has adopted the mythology of Lovecraft's wandering black planet Yuggoth, and I was just browsing the Welsh dictionary and I think I found the origin for the black planet Yuggoth. (and sorry in advance, Lovecraft was super racist, and just to be clear I am not endorsing his views, I am just reporting on how he came up with his names) pellenigwr means "stranger" and pellen means "a round mass, a ball" so the implication that "the Stranger" is a "black sphere" [Pretty much everything related to Yuggoth follows this racist naming scheme: Shub Niggurath (means "wandering Black Goat" in Gaelic), and Nyarlathotep (neyros means "black" and lithos means "stone" in Greek) pellynig means "far-wandering" and the word "planet" comes from the Greek which means "wanderer" pell means "periphery of a circle" and Yuggoth was at the rim of the solar system in the Whisperer in Darkness and pellddrych means "telescope" and Yuggoth is discovered by telescope So the idea of a wanderer from far places, that is called "the Stranger" that causes the Long Night when it eclipses the sun is all directly taken from Lovecraft. As in Lovecraft's the Tree on the Hill, the Black Goat Yuggoth caused an Endless Night on Earth during the Year of the Black Goat, when demons will torment mankind in absolute darkness. [Pelennor Fields from Lord of the Rings comes from this same root, as they are far-extending fields around Minas Tirith, as pellynu / pellynol means "afar off, far-extending"] Earth's Shadow And the name Yuggoth comes from the Welsh: gwth / ysgwth / yscuth / ysgeth which means "goat" [as in the Black Goat Baphomet, which is always depicted alongside a black planet] and is associated with the Stranger ysgod "shadow" [is-god, and the Shadow is god] ysgodogion means "men of the shades, hobgoblins, black devils, Scottish" [and the Starks are Scottish] ysgodog means "shadowing, sheltering" ygoed means "hollow" and ysgoeg means "empty" [Yuggoth is a hollow planet] ygoth means "to purge" [and Yuggoth will purge the Earth in the year of the Black Goat/Endless Night/Long Night/Judgment Day] ysgud means "shield, tarian" Yuggoth is the Shadow, Earth's Shadow, and the Others are the "men of the shadow" who are sheltering under its shadow in permanent darkness. Ghost Grass lives under the Shadow, and is it a metaphor for the White Walkers; Ghost = Shade/Shadow, Grass = Sward/Blades, Ghost Grass = Shadow Swords. gwellt [ghoul] means "grass" in Welsh The Wanderer (from far places) One of Lovecraft's disciples was Fritz Leiber, and he expanded the idea of Yuggoth coming to Earth and wrote a book called the Wanderer where the premise is that a planet-sized spaceship has visited Earth many times in the past, and it has a changing design on its face so as it rotates it looks different, and thus its appearance was incorporated in human mythology variously as Fenrir the wolf the moon-swallower, a Cthulhu-like octopus, a Tyrannosaurus Rex/dragon, a Hooded Man, a Yin-Yang symbol, a Cross or Planet X, a Shield, etc. On this visit it accidentally cracks the moon in half like an egg and causes massive destruction on Earth, and the moon fragments fall to Earth as meteors. And at the end of the story another even bigger planet-sized spaceship shows up in pursuit of the Wanderer, and its hull is polished gunmetal grey armor, and is compared to a mirror, and it is called the Stranger. The Stranger has come to punish the Wanderer for disturbing our planet and destroying our moon, and they have an epic laser battle, then they both leave. In Bran's coma dream he sees a man with hounds head armor (the Wanderer) and a giant hollow stone giant (the Stranger) eclipse the sun. And the myth of Serwyn of the Mirror Shield, cerwyn means "vat, tub"--a hollow metallic vessel, ysgud means "shield", and the Stranger has a mirrored hull, and in Gaelic, sgath / sgail means "mirror" and "eclipse" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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