sologdin Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 curious that 'grafting' there is genotypical rather than phenotypical. nifty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 because the usual "shez stupid because shez stupidz because me say so" doesn't count. Yep, that's pretty much what a certain broken record sounds like. Bakker could have easily resorted to Compulsions to make the Inchoroi attractive but I think it is Aurax at the end of TWP. Why would it being Aurax mean that it's not using Compulsions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolivar Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Was it Aurax? I thought the description matches how we always see Aurang and I kind of like the idea that we haven't seen Aurax yet...Damn I read that article and the Tusk revelation... can't believe he just dropped that in an interview! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Was it Aurax? I thought the description matches how we always see Aurang and I kind of like the idea that we haven't seen Aurax yet...Damn I read that article and the Tusk revelation... can't believe he just dropped that in an interview! Isn't that the only instance where we see an Inchoroi in his original body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 she's innana/ishtar, no? Sorry, I thought we were talking about archtypes of fantasy readers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 gah. lost track of the thread there. the female reader with the voracious sexual appetite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolivar Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Isn't that the only instance where we see an Inchoroi in his original body?Achamian has a dream about him in TWLW (the one I mentioned before of Nau-Cayuti) and he's also in the first Atrocity Tale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Thanks, forgot about the dream. But how do you explain the difference in the way they spoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Ent Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Isn't that the only instance where we see an Inchoroi in his original body? I remember three sightings of Inchoroi in their “current” body (i.e., the form they’ve had for the past millennia.) 1. The epilogue of Warrior Prophet. 2. The False Sun. Identified as Aurang. 3. Flashbacks from Achamian as Nau-Cayuti. Identified as Aurang. The description of the three bodies is the same. We don’t know how heterogenuous the Inchoroi are, maybe Aurax looks like Aurang, maybe he looks like a turtle with three heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 The description of the three bodies is the same. We don’t know how heterogenuous the Inchoroi are, maybe Aurax looks like Aurang, maybe he looks like a turtle with three heads. The former is more likely though, since they are called twins. But most Earwans would probably tell you that all Inchoroi look the same. But if that one is Aurang, Bakker has to explain how he changes personalities between his Synthese form and this one, and why Aurang as seen in the FS speaks normally compared to one in TWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 only racists think that all rape aliens look the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Ent Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Oh, another sighting that I just thought of: When the Fellowship enters the halls of Cil-Aujas (sp?) there are 3D murals that depict battles between Nonmen and Inchoroi. As far as I recall, the Inchoroi look like Aurang, but I may be inventing more details than are actually in the text. No turtles, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentRoamer Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Why would it being Aurax mean that it's not using Compulsions? Good question - I wasn't clear in my post. We know that Aurax is the "brains" behind the Tekne and I would imagine Aurax to use this rather than Sorcery in most instances. The Inchoroi at the end of TWP speaks telepathically which we do not see from Aurang. I don't think this telepathy is Sorcery based but Tekne based. I could be wrong as it is just conjecture on my part but I fully expect the Inchie at the end of TWP is Aurax, all other Inchie we have seen is Aurang. I expect Aurax abilities to differ greatly from Aurang but again this is just my personal opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolivar Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I just expect them to be different, assuming every Inchoroi modifies itself in different ways. Plus, I would like his absence to build up to something really shocking and disturbing if we have in fact not seen him yet. But what you guys are saying makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 only racists think that all rape aliens look the same. I hardly expect them to be open-minded towards people of translucency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Does anyone know what Bakker meant when he said that Serwe is the most important character in the series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 He's wrong: the most important character is Leweth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 pop leweth in the sarcophagus.I MUST KNOW WHAT I THINK.TELL ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTinyKittens Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Serwë is one of the only characters - perhaps the only main character - who seems capable of real faith. She is also perhaps the only character who, despite having as horrible a past as any, is able to overcome her own personal history and use her faith and relationship with Kellhus to reforge herself completely. She kind of becomes an embodiment of the Dunyain view of history, in a way :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Buck Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Serwë is one of the only characters - perhaps the only main character - who seems capable of real faith. She is also perhaps the only character who, despite having as horrible a past as any, is able to overcome her own personal history and use her faith and relationship with Kellhus to reforge herself completely. She kind of becomes an embodiment of the Dunyain view of history, in a way :P All good points, but the bolded in particular is what I think Bakker's referring to. Serwe truly believed Kellhus was God, thus helping to make it real. She basically got the ball rolling, causing Kellhus to go from merely pretending to be the God, to actually becoming the God. Serwe and Kellhus's divine connection in that way is what allowed the latter to remove the former's heart (by reaching through the Outside, I think, as WoTK has speculated before). Their souls were "linked" in some way because of Serwe's total, utterly devoted and unflinching belief. She was the very first to do so, and thus ostensibly the most important. That's my theory, anyway. I can't see any other aspect of Serwe's character or arc that would warrant such a heavily loaded comment from RSB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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