The Anti-Targ Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 What's the political message in a hung parliament? On the left it would seem to suggest that the country as a whole still doesn't trust the right, which gives the left some cause for comfort even though they will have a smaller proportion of seats/national vote share. On the right it would seem to be a bit depressing that this is Labour at it's lowest ebb and still they can't win enough of the country to govern alone. Despite gaining many seats and definitely being the biggest party in parliament they're hardly in the position they would have hoped for. Even with a 326 seat majority it's still not a major vote of confidence and an overwhelming mandate for their policy programme.Interesting times. FPP is so last century. If you're gonna have a party based democracy PR is the way to go. Imagine PR in the USA. I think if that happened the Republican and Democrat parties would both seriously fragment into a number of satellite parties, It would be the death of the degree of partisanship in American politics witnessed over the last few decades. Which of course is why the Dems and Repubs are unlikely to ever vote it in.If the Lib Dems hiold the balance of power in the British Pparliament you can bet that a referrendum on RP will be one of their bottom lines for confidence and supply support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 What a numptee at Cameron's re-elect spelling out the number of votes each candiadate got: one one one seven :P = 1007 for example :PAre you sure that's how you spell numptee? I've never seen it written before. :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim da reaper Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Proportional representation :thumbsup: Then it's maturer coalition government, a move in the right direction. Coalitions solve more problems then they create, as a general rule. No matter what they say about the IMF being scared, not surpressing people's voices solves more problems than it creates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser_not_appearing_yet Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 You guys going on about PR need to remember that the BNP have had another rise in vote-share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Lib Dems apparently lost Newton Abbott, terrible blow. Big swing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sToNED_CAT Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Imagine PR in the USA. I think if that happened the Republican and Democrat parties would both seriously fragment into a number of satellite parties, It would be the death of the degree of partisanship in American politics witnessed over the last few decades. Which of course is why the Dems and Repubs are unlikely to ever vote it in.PR systems are far more partisan than FPP. In PR systems indiviuals have no power and MPs almost never vote against party line. You can be kicked out of party in PR systems, and your political career is over, unless you are popular enough to create new party. In US system you must lose primaries. America has problems but they should be solved by antigerrymandering and anticorruption legislation, not PR system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim da reaper Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Are you sure that's how you spell numptee? I've never seen it written before. :-PI think it's the alternative minority spelling of a colloquial word haha, (the word is not in the dictionary as far as I know, ahhh so tired.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Lib Dems have lost 3 seats to 1 gain so far. Looks like their vote share might go up but their seat share might go down. If they get too much of a net loss it could put the conservatives over the 326 seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Bath won for the Lib Dems with a much increased majority, and with that I think it's time for bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Lib Dems have lost 3 seats to 1 gain so far. Looks like their vote share might go up but their seat share might go down. If they get too much of a net loss it could put the conservatives over the 326 seats.On the BBC site they say they've gained 2, so have a net loss of 1. As of a moment ago. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser_not_appearing_yet Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 What's the political message in a hung parliament? On the left it would seem to suggest that the country as a whole still doesn't trust the right, which gives the left some cause for comfort even though they will have a smaller proportion of seats/national vote share. On the right it would seem to be a bit depressing that this is Labour at it's lowest ebb and still they can't win enough of the country to govern alone. Despite gaining many seats and definitely being the biggest party in parliament they're hardly in the position they would have hoped for. Even with a 326 seat majority it's still not a major vote of confidence and an overwhelming mandate for their policy programme.Interesting times. FPP is so last century. If you're gonna have a party based democracy PR is the way to go. Imagine PR in the USA. I think if that happened the Republican and Democrat parties would both seriously fragment into a number of satellite parties, It would be the death of the degree of partisanship in American politics witnessed over the last few decades. Which of course is why the Dems and Repubs are unlikely to ever vote it in.If the Lib Dems hiold the balance of power in the British Pparliament you can bet that a referrendum on RP will be one of their bottom lines for confidence and supply support.I actually think the real message being sent out via this election is that British voters are far more traditional in their patterns than we may have thought. There's essentially been NO massive change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 On the BBC site they say they've gained 2, so have a net loss of 1. As of a moment ago. :)Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellis Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Automatic generated messageThis topic has been closed by a moderator.Reason: the night is long, with many seats to go... take it to a new thread. thnx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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