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1) Actresses who know they have a nude sex scene tend to become very self-conscious of their body before any shooting. I wouldn't be surprised if Emilia Clarke shed 10-15 more pounds, although she doesn't even need to.

2) Wasn't Dany's description of being a petite young girl from the early parts of GoT? I would think that the 13 year old girl we're presented in the beginning still has room to mature into her body by the time we reach the second or third books. Certainly her personality does. What the producers need is an actress who can portray that petite, naive girl early on, but has the acting chops and the looks to grow into a queen. For those who loved Tamzin, I saw her easily as Dany in the early parts of GoT, but had trouble picturing her as the queen she was to become. I can't really see it in Emilia Clarke either, but 1) those eyes are rapturous, 2) from her videos, she can definitely act; and 3) good makeup has proven me wrong before about how good an actress can look.

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My beef is that we had this same idiocy last year. Some posters (guys) bitched about how Tamzin wasn't pretty enough. Now we have posters (guys) going on about how Emilia isn't skinny.

Enough already, they both are/were fine.

Done now.

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:agree: Seriously guys come on. They both look good and the important thing is acting abiltity anyway.

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If you look at the child abuse clip on youtube some smart arse has already posted a comment saying "Dany abused by Viserys"

That's so wrong... But, kinda funny.

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Maybe some of the fanboys out there are just "sad" they won't see an actress who looks 13 have a sex scene...Ugh, not trying to be mean, but seriously, would you want to see that? I would not.

Reading it is one thing, seeing it is another.

The character is aged up and the body will be as well, let's move on.

I was thinking the same thing. Reading about it was bad enough, but seeing it would be worse. I'm glad Clarke doesn't resemble a little kid. I don't want to see pedophilia on the screen.

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I was thinking the same thing. Reading about it was bad enough, but seeing it would be worse. I'm glad Clarke doesn't resemble a little kid. I don't want to see pedophilia on the screen.

Speaking of which it's going to take a lot of acting skill on Emilia's part to pull off those sex scenes depending on how they're presented.

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Pedophilia involves pre-pubescent children and Dany was not pre-pubescent.

That being said, I think Emilia Clark is beautiful and I also think its really mean to slam on an actor's looks on a website that we all know they are reading. I thought it was mean with Tamzin and I think its mean with Emilia. The important thing is acting and there won't be a Ms. Universe acting in the show either way...and this whole "most beautiful woman in the world" thing is way overblown. There's no way that HBO will get "the most beautiful woman in the world" to act in the show because they'll have trouble finding two people to agree on who that is.

The important thing is that she can act. She won't look the same after she's been through their makeup artists anyway (and you'd be surprised at how different body type can look depending on clothing)and I have no understanding of why some people seem to think her looks are more important than her acting ability anyway.

These actors are real people portraying fictional characters. Maisie looks nothing like my vision of Arya and she won't even with makeup but its a TV show and I don't expect her too. Same goes for Catelyn, Ned is much older, Sandor and Tyrion are way too cute, et al. I'm waiting until I see the show on the screen to criticize their choices...doing so on the basis of a picture is ridiculous.

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Pedophilia involves pre-pubescent children and Dany was not pre-pubescent.

By definitions of medieval time yes, by todays standards in most western countries no. Depends of you're tlaking strict definition or legal definition.

I think the way most people's sensibilities would function is that they would have a problem with a man having sex with a child under 16, but a girl of 15 in Medieval times is ok.

Either way I know I'm looking forward to seeing them.. :)

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Venardhi- considering that the guy who I addressed my initial post to admitted that he was being a fanboy, I'd say your post is completely off base (and perhaps you are trying to rationalize your own feelings). Every fan has an idea in their head of how a character should look, but it's rare for that actor/actress to be found. It's more about the performance and if they can bring the emotion, the essence of that character onto the screen. There's quite a few that don't fit the description in the book or in my mind as well, but you accept that as a reality and a bias on your part and move on. You have to reserve judgment until you see them in action.

As other posters have pointed out, Dany is being aged up because of the sex scenes. Of course the Dany in the book who is 13 is incredibly small because she is not fully developed as a woman yet. It's better for the audience if the actress playing her doesn't look like a child having sex with a huge man.

Oh, and I will degrade someone for a rude comment on a young woman's weight because it's disgusting and entirely deserved.

You completely missed my point.

"Fanboy" is a made up word specifically designed to denigrate a person that for one reason or another has a differing opinion on the subject of a fiction of some sort or another.

I'm not agreeing with either side really, though I understand the appeal of (and generally prefer) remaining closer to the source material than they generally have regarding casting. As an actor, writer and fllm-maker myself I know that it is rare to find someone 'perfect' so certain compromises must be made for the sake of the overall production.

But by labeling someone a 'fanboy' in a derogatory way (as many have done so in this forum, and in this thread) even if they jokingly label themselves as such, you make the statement that your opinion is superior and therefore 'right' and theirs is simply hokum and worth dismissing out of hand.

I have high hopes for this girl, but none of us can say one way or another about how well she will perform as Dany, so your opinion is as useless as anyone's and deserves no more respect than that of a 'fanboy' hoping for as much visual accuracy as possible.

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"Fanboy" is a made up word specifically designed to denigrate a person that for one reason or another has a differing opinion on the subject of a fiction of some sort or another.

Bah. All words are essentially made-up. Its pretty clear why "fanboy" was used in this context.

And honestly, it should be pretty obvious to anyone that the TV show is going to make a lot of compromises for the sake of the overall production. Anyone who demands otherwise deserves to be challenged.

Furthermore, people that take shots at actresses weight also deserve to be rebuked.

Opinions can be judged. They are not all rated the same.

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Argue the facts, not the poster. 'Fanboy' is an insult meant to nullify any point someone might have so that you can skip past recognizing any good points they might have. It is like calling a political opponent a nazi or a communist or a socialist or whatever the straw-man villain of the day is. I'm sure I've used it myself in the past in various contexts but of late it has just become such a go-to phrase to avoid actual conversation that I feel the need to repudiate its use.

If you think someone is being overly critical of someone's weight then talk to that point, not the fact that they like the source material the way it is and would prefer the adaptation as close as possible. I don't think anyone is claiming that if Dany has hips they won't watch the show, or claiming this casting is the death-knell of the series. Honestly if you think this is 'fanboy' material I hope you never find yourself on any other forums, because this group of people is about as reasonable on the whole as any I've seen on the internet.

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Argue the facts, not the poster. 'Fanboy' is an insult meant to nullify any point someone might have so that you can skip past recognizing any good points they might have. It is like calling a political opponent a nazi or a communist or a socialist or whatever the straw-man villain of the day is. I'm sure I've used it myself in the past in various contexts but of late it has just become such a go-to phrase to avoid actual conversation that I feel the need to repudiate its use.

Venardhi, if you have read my previous posts, I have pointed out that nobody is actually suggesting this issue is an important one when it comes to their opinion of the HBO series. :)

While I don't like the word "fanboy" myself, I don't disagree with its use per se. Its one way to describe an over-reaction from people. And I will say that suggesting that one actress is skinnier than another (and thus a better candidate) was a rather silly argument.

I don't buy that we should repudiate the use of the word "fanboy", comparisons to "Nazis" notwithstanding. :) If people can't explain why their reaction isn't "fanboyish" then they should be judged on that basis. If they can be, great. (Similarly people should be able to justify why they say somebody is fanboyish. It works both ways). I don't agree with censoring people's use of a word because it might hurt other people's feelings. If you voice an opinion then prepare to be challenged.

Basically, some arguments are simply weak. They don't need a big long paragraph explaining why they are weak. (Although such an accusation still allows the originator of the argument to show us how wrong we were later on, if we all did miss something).

If you think someone is being overly critical of someone's weight then talk to that point, not the fact that they like the source material the way it is and would prefer the adaptation as close as possible.

Why can't I do both? I maybe missing something there.

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What is it with poor Dany that brings out all this negativity about the actress portraying her. It seems people must have super set ideas about her appearance, since I have not seen this much complaining about any other role, not even Cat which was also recast.

I like Ms. Clark, never had a problem with Merchant either. With the discussion about her weight one would think she was totally fat or something, not the slender looking girl I see in the clips/photos.

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Why can't I do both? I maybe missing something there.

An entirely different argument, though a perfectly fair one to have. I find it odd though that one would argue for change in the adaptation of something they were a fan of unless a more faithful alternative was unavailable. On the other hand I'm on the record saying I'd have no problem with a non-White/European Bronn so maybe I'm just feeling argumentative tonight.

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I find it odd though that one would argue for change in the adaptation of something they were a fan of unless a more faithful alternative was unavailable.

Interesting. I suppose the argument is that we believe a more faithful alternative isn't available.

What is it with poor Dany that brings out all this negativity about the actress portraying her.

In size terms, this thread might give the wrong impression. I think the new actress has been accepted very well generally. We just end up arguing about small points. :)

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I have to note, petite (which has become a talking point since I used the word earlier, I guess) isn't just a matter of height; saying, "She's petite because she's 5'2" is wrong. There are very short people who are not petite. Small _and_ slight = petite (or petit, if you're male).

I hate to nit-pick, but no. The term "petite" or "petit" in French means small, but the common useage in English is as a fashion term and it specifically refers to women under 5'4" (some designers say 5'3"). It's a size category which has to do with how height changes the proportions of clothing (inseam, sleeve lengths and vertical torso measurements). Most designs are made with the mythical "average" woman of 5'5" in mind and need to be cut down or re-proportioned to fit shorter women. Many of the most well known petite blogs focus on smaller framed women, but there's actually fairly substantial movement to get the "real" definition more press and to emphasize the need for plus-size petites in the marketplace. (The issue intersects with a whole host of feminist blogs that address issues of size, weight etc.)

All of which is, of course, completely irrelevant. She's a gorgeous girl and won a major role in which they looked at countless auditions, I'm sure she'll be good.

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Okay, let's get the discussion back on to the actual casting of Emilia Clarke, and not the relative merits (or lack of them) of the word 'fanboy' and other related topics. If you want to have that discussion, please take it to PM.

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Okay, let's get the discussion back on to the actual casting of Emilia Clarke, and not the relative merits (or lack of them) of the word 'fanboy' and other related topics. If you want to have that discussion, please take it to PM.

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Good luck mate. I even tried talking about sex scenes for fuck sake.

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:agree: I'm looking forward to the sex scenes between Cersei and Jaime, just for the cringe worthy giggles. Eeeew, twincest!!! :wacko:

Although Tyrion is up there too "Oooh my lion of Lannister, ooooh...":rofl:

Sad really.

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