Omegas Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Hi all I'd like to ask the question which house would you compare to a country in our world. Here's just some of my list: House Stark - Great Britain or Scandinavia House Baratheon- France House Lannister - Spain House Targarayen- Germany House Martell- Byzantine Empire or Egypt House Greyjoy- Italy House Tyrell - Hapsburg empire Austria-Hungary Dothraki -Mongol Horde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero-coast Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I dont have many answers of my own, but most of these... I just dont understand... Greyjoy, Italy? Realy? Norse/Viking makes much more sense. Many others just dont make sense to me, and I dont know if we should think of them having a real world analogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanbean4lyfe Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Hi all I'd like to ask the question which house would you compare to a country in our world. Here's just some of my list: House Stark - Great Britain or Scandinavia House Baratheon- France House Lannister - Spain House Targarayen- Germany House Martell- Byzantine Empire or Egypt House Greyjoy- Italy House Tyrell - Hapsburg empire Austria-Hungary Dothraki -Mongol Horde hmmm interesting. one does not usually see a list that looks like that. in my experiences with these types of threads the parallels are: Greyjoys=viking/scandanavianDorne= spainTyrells= France it is known. etc, and the others are up to somewhat debate...but i do not see the Lannisters being Spain (except for their love of gold...hehe) or Targs as Germany. I am curious to why you said these countries. I honesty do not see it at all, but if you have some legitimate explanation, that would be...enlightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandoz12 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 If it were from any time of our world. Then I would say the Greyjoy's are more like the Vikings. Dothraki are definitely Mongols but also would fit Hun's well. Otherwise agree with most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegas Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 Ok when I was doing comparison's I was referring to their locations. And Yes I know the GreyJoys are vikings. But in the case of history I do recall the visgoths being in rome at some point so that's who was comparing them to. Targarayen's I was referring the the Holy Roman empire Germany. Lannister's I was referring to Spain during the inquisition. The Starks I said England because they feel like britain all the chacteristics are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Khal Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Ok when I was doing comparison's I was referring to their locations. And Yes I know the GreyJoys are vikings. But in the case of history I do recall the visgoths being in rome at some point so that's who was comparing them to. Targarayen's I was referring the the Holy Roman empire Germany. Lannister's I was referring to Spain during the inquisition. The Starks I said England because they feel like britain all the chacteristics are there.The Lannisters seem more British to me, with the Tyrells as French. Braavosi seem to be Italian, although it doesn't work with the location thing, It is far better to base it on culture and geography, in my opinion. Anyways, the North feels Scottish to me, the Targaryens politics seem either Byzantine or Holy Roman. Dorne seems more like Moorish/Castillian Spain. The Ironborn, very Norwegian. Mereen, Astapor and Yunkai seem very Mespotamian, and Valyrian very Roman. Qarth is odd, since the city acts as Byzantium/Instanbul, but the culture seems Persian, or Saracen. Well, thats my 2 cents, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegas Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 The Lannisters seem more British to me, with the Tyrells as French. Braavosi seem to be Italian, although it doesn't work with the location thing, It is far better to base it on culture and geography, in my opinion. Anyways, the North feels Scottish to me, the Targaryens politics seem either Byzantine or Holy Roman. Dorne seems more like Moorish/Castillian Spain. The Ironborn, very Norwegian. Mereen, Astapor and Yunkai seem very Mespotamian, and Valyrian very Roman. Qarth is odd, since the city acts as Byzantium/Instanbul, but the culture seems Persian, or Saracen. Well, thats my 2 cents, That is the sort response I was looking for. And I feel that everyone can make up their own mind on on which house suits which country and culture . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defengar Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 House Stark - Denmark House Baratheon- Germany House Lannister - England House Targarayen- Byzantine Empire House Greyjoy- Norway House Tyrell - France Dothraki -Mongol`s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Oncoming Storm Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 House Stark - ScotlandHouse Baratheon - Germany/HRE (Robert: Bavaria, Stannis: Prussia, Renly: Lotharingia)House Lannister - EnglandHouse Targarayen - Ptolemaic Egypt / Roman EmpireHouse Martel - Moors/Spain with a hint or Sicily/CorsicaHouse Greyjoy - VikingsHouse Tyrell - (Southern) FranceDothraki - Huns / Tatars / CossacsTullys - hmmm... rivers and pretty much everyone rapes/plunders their way through them. Sounds like my Hungary.Arryns - Switzerland (=mountains, neutrality) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dembos Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 House Stark scandinavian post viking era and House Greyjoy scandinavian viking era... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillentRegrets Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 House Stark - ScotlandHouse Baratheon - Germany/HRE (Robert: Bavaria, Stannis: Prussia, Renly: Lotharingia)House Lannister - EnglandHouse Targarayen - Ptolemaic Egypt / Roman EmpireHouse Martel - Moors/Spain with a hint or Sicily/CorsicaHouse Greyjoy - VikingsHouse Tyrell - (Southern) FranceDothraki - Huns / Tatars / CossacsTullys - hmmm... rivers and pretty much everyone rapes/plunders their way through them. Sounds like my Hungary.Arryns - Switzerland (=mountains, neutrality) Quite liked your comparison. I totally agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoli Rho Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I'd say: - Stark: Scotland/Ireland- Beyond the Wall: Scandinavia- Greyjoy: too small to be all of Scandinavia; they're like Orkney/Kirkwall, close enough to mess with Britain- Tully: Northern France/Scandinavia/Rhineland- Lannister: England- Tyrell: Southern France- Baratheon: Wales- Martell: Spain (actually a really good parallel. The Stony Dornishmen are the North/Castille; Sandy Dornishmen are Moorish Spain; Salty Dornishmen are the South and Catalonia) The Free Cities in general are Italy/Greece (really kinda the whole eastern Mediterranean). More specifically:- Braavos: Venice- Pentos: Florence- Myr: Genoa- Lys: Athens- Volantis: tough... maybe Naples?- Tyrosh: Malta- Valyria: Rome- Qarth: Constantinople- Norvos: Macedon?- Qohor: Beograd or some other inland, frontier Byzantine city Yi Ti sounds like China to me. No idea what Asshai would be... maybe India? Sothyros, of course, is Africa. - Dothraki: Mongol horde- Summer Islands: North Africa maybe? Since they have a fair amount of contact with Europe.- Slaver's Bay: The names always made me think of Georgia and the Cossacks. They could be like the eastern Black Sea/Turkish homelands. The Turks definitely liked their slaves :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyOfStormsEnd Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 As I already said in one another thread I think that the whole Westeros is Britain with a lot of other cultural influences (after all this is fantasy).The Targaryens = Normans / PlantagenetsThe Vale - SwitzerlandDorne - Medieval Spain ( a lot of culture together) along with Mediterranean culture ( roman - greek)Iron islands - Vikings / ScandinaviaThe Reach - FranceStormlands - the remind me of ScotlandThe West - EnglandTHE FREE CITIES - famous maritime republics & city statesBraavos and Braavosian coastland = Venice and its former landsVolantis = the manner of the rule (three councils held by the nobility; marriages were forbidden between members of three different social classes,etc.) reminds me of DubrovnikPentos= it reminds me of Amalfi Valyria = Ancient RomeThe Dragon Roads of Valyria = the roads that the Roman builtSothoyros = AfricaQarth and the Jade Sea = Asia, more specifically China or India Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenblood Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I can see the Roman Empire/Ancient Valyria paralell, there is this big focus on the ancient valyrian roads, and also the language of high valyrian = latin, ie no longer spoken but used in books/texts and derived into the modern languages of Essos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Dove Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I have to say Stark: ScotlandLannister: EnglandTyrell: FranceMartell: Middle EastArryn: SwitzerlandTully: HungaryGreyjoy: Norway/Finland (Viking connection)Baratheons: Germany (unyielding and warlike) I'm surprised no one has seen the Targs as the Greeks or maybe even the Minoans (Crete). Ahead of their time in science (screwing around with dragons anyone?) The area on the maps that I've seen even looks a little bit like Greece. But even creepier the Minoans were most likely wiped out by some grand cataclysmic disaster. And the stupid fan girl in me has also noticed that the areas in that region commonly have the "ae" that is so common in Targ names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zar Lannister Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 The Tyrells being France and the Dornish Being the Spanish makes a good parallel. I'd say the Slaver Cities are more like the Middle East. (They Have the Olive Parallel, the Extreme Heat, the Harems, and the Pyramids). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobilly Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 House Stark - ScotlandHouse Baratheon - Germany/HRE (Robert: Bavaria, Stannis: Prussia, Renly: Lotharingia)House Lannister - EnglandHouse Targarayen - Ptolemaic Egypt / Roman EmpireHouse Martel - Moors/Spain with a hint or Sicily/CorsicaHouse Greyjoy - VikingsHouse Tyrell - (Southern) FranceDothraki - Huns / Tatars / CossacsTullys - hmmm... rivers and pretty much everyone rapes/plunders their way through them. Sounds like my Hungary.Arryns - Switzerland (=mountains, neutrality) This is the one I most agree in among all the comparisons. Just adding that I feel the Free Cities seem like the Italian city-states, and Asshai/Jade Sea seems like the far East (China, Japan, Korea etc). Now you got me thinking why doesn't Westeros start colonizing Sothyros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny of Oldstones Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Definitely on board for Tyells=France and Dorne=Spain. It works well with real world geography (with the Red Mountains being the Pyrenees) and with the fact that for several centuries France and Spain had a huge rivalry going, which is something we see in the Tyrells and the Martells. Lannister=England works for when England finally got it together enough to be a major player in European politics, and then had a rivalry with France. Stark=Scotland works well because they are both far north and relatively off the grid and disregarded by other houses. I would now like to purport that Tully=Poland. Easily invaded and conquered, and a front line for any war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 This is the one I most agree in among all the comparisons. Just adding that I feel the Free Cities seem like the Italian city-states, and Asshai/Jade Sea seems like the far East (China, Japan, Korea etc). Now you got me thinking why doesn't Westeros start colonizing Sothyros. Because they are still in a middle-ages type of economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenblood Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 also Old Ghis = Ancient Egypt.Old empire of pyramid builders, who deal with slaves destroyed by the Valyrian (roman) empire! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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