A Thread for Small Questions XVI

[The Imp With A Pimp Limp]

I've got a few questions, most are about what is being speculated, and I'm really just asking what the most agreed upon answer may be, because it obviously hasn't been confirmed yet.

Some people are speculating that Bran went unknowingly cannibal and ate Jojen via weirwood paste (Reedwood Paste?), was there any indication that Jojen dissappeared or was missing at all? Any hints that that was his fate?

What do we know about Mel and what she was doing whilst Jon was getting shanked?

Tyrions traveling uncle (Gerion?) has apparently shown up or at least been hinted to be alive? Wasn't that the one who went to reclaim a Valyrian blade? Or was that another Lannister...

Where is Edric Dayne and why did he decide to join the outlaws? Isn't he the Lord of Starfell? Why doesn't he just go home live the Lords life?

Any backstory on Bloodraven?

Dany got an STD from Daario? What?

Did Kevan Lannister ever have any solid proof that Jamie and Cersie were having an incestious relationship?

I seemed to have completely skimmed over the part about TPTWP, can somebody fill me in?

Didn't that Manderly guy get gutted at Winterfell? Did any of his sons find out and take over White Harbour as Lord?

Aurane Waters apparently peaced the scene at KL with all the new ships for... what?

Was Orton Merryweathers wife a double agent (or triple agent?) in that she was against Cersia the whole time?

Somebody said that Tormund Giantsbabe (lets be honest, thats what he should be called) is leading a ranging? Is he? And if so, why?

People are saying that Jeyne Westerlings mother was giving her tea so that he couldn't have a baby. Was she, and if she may have been, why would she do that?

I'm probably wrong, but I always thought that what they mean in ASoIaF by "a summer that never ends" or when they talk about summers which last for decades is that the seasons are just regular, or at least, regular with summer being somewhat extended. So say 2 months winter, 3 months spring, 5 months summer, then 2 months autumn. Don't they talk about autumn and "summer snowfalls" in the books as well?

Thanks for any and all replies!

Not sure on the Jojen thing although I don't think it's true I'd say it's a 50/50 kind of thing in the forums

Same with melisandre, although she watched Jon's speech to the wildlings prior to his stabbing

Yes that is the same uncle that went looking for the Lannister Valyrian sword

Don't know where Edric Dayne is but he was Berric Dondarrion's squire and that's why he joined the BWB.

Bloodraven is part targaryen and he sided with the King during the Blackfyre rebellion, Egg, Aegon the Unlikely sent him to the wall with maester Aemon, you can read more about him on the wiki or on the Dunk and Egg stories

Don't know about the STD with Daario but some, including me, believe she was pregnant and that's why she was bleeding

He didn't have any solid proof about Jaime and Cersei, nobody can have unless they catch them in the act but I guess he figured out that since all the kids are blonde it must be true. Maybe he heard about the time Lady Joanna caught them having sex as kids but that's unlikely.

The Prince That Was Promised is a prophecy that Rhaegar believed was him, basically saying he would save the world and many believe that's why he stopped reading books and started training as a knight. Later on he realized it wasn't him but his kids, so there he developed the three heads of the dragon prophecy

Manderly got knifed but he probably survived, had he been a thin man he would have probably died, I guess the fat saved him

We don't know what's up with Aurene

Same with Orton although I don't think he was but he left just because he din't want to be brought down along with Cersei

He was supposed to go to Hardhome where a lot of wildliings are hiding. They're doing this so they can rescue them and prevent any of them turning into wights. They were supposed to bring the wildings south of the wall but after Jon received Ramseys letter they decided to attack Ramsey instead of going to Hardhome

We don't know about Jeyne, but a lot of people believe she's pregnant and that's the reason that the blackfish didn't want to hand Riverrun to Jaime because she would have been killed

Hope it helps

[Ser? My Lady? Ser?]

Thanks! It indeed does help

Still need clarification on the seasons thing...

Here's the question again:

I'm probably wrong, but I always thought that what they mean in ASoIaF by "a summer that never ends" or when they talk about summers which last for decades is that the seasons are just regular, or at least, regular with summer being somewhat extended. So say 2 months winter, 3 months spring, 5 months summer, then 2 months autumn. Don't they talk about autumn and "summer snowfalls" in the books as well?

[The Imp With A Pimp Limp]

Thanks! It indeed does help

Still need clarification on the seasons thing...

Here's the question again:

I'm probably wrong, but I always thought that what they mean in ASoIaF by "a summer that never ends" or when they talk about summers which last for decades is that the seasons are just regular, or at least, regular with summer being somewhat extended. So say 2 months winter, 3 months spring, 5 months summer, then 2 months autumn. Don't they talk about autumn and "summer snowfalls" in the books as well?

Seasons have been a very debated topic and many developing some wild scientific theories about two suns and stuff like that. Martin has said that seasons are magical and don't have a real explanation. However it does seem as if winter and summer are predominantly longer, meanwhile summer and spring are more quick transition seasons. For example the last summer last around 7-8 years with the autumn lasting1-2 years and now winter is literally here and it's supposed to last for a loooong while. Yes there are summer snowfalls but that only occurs in the north and they're not particularly strong, they are just like rain storms during a non-raining season here I would guess. Something also worth mentioning is the Year of the False Spring where it seemed that winter was at an end but it turned out to be a weird anomaly. So it seems that there's changing weather patterns within a season itself. So there it is.

ETA Its also mentioned that how long a summer it is affects the length of the Winter some say winters are always longer than summers and that a long summer = a really long winter but I don't think we really know. But it seems that say if a summer lasts for 7 years then winter will last around that same time, the other two seasons won't last as long

[Ser? My Lady? Ser?]

Ah, thanks again

[assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar]

I'm probably wrong, but I always thought that what they mean in ASoIaF by "a summer that never ends" or when they talk about summers which last for decades is that the seasons are just regular, or at least, regular with summer being somewhat extended. So say 2 months winter, 3 months spring, 5 months summer, then 2 months autumn. Don't they talk about autumn and "summer snowfalls" in the books as well?

I'm sorry but I don't understand how you can arrive at that conclusion. :P When they say that summers can last decades, that what they mean — summers that last decades, as in tens of years.

[Tropxe]

Don't know about the STD with Daario but some, including me, believe she was pregnant and that's why she was bleeding

If she was pregnant, she wouldn't be bleeding. Being pregnant stops your "moon blood", it doesn't make it happen early. The STD idea is pretty ridiculous, though. It seems to be something to do with her womb "sorting itself out" in some way, or at least changing. No idea if it's for the better or for the worse, but it can't really be any worse than it already is since she supposedly can't conceive. It could theoretically also show in some way that time has moved at a different rate for her (i.e. it's just her regular period but the time she thinks she's spent since the last one is different from what it is in reality, for some mysterious reason) or that her body is undergoing a change into some kind of other form, another human-like form that has a shorter menstrual cycle than a human. I really doubt those last two but they're theoretically possible.

[Lykos]

Don't know about the STD with Daario but some, including me, believe she was pregnant and that's why she was bleeding

You might want to discuss this here.

[Teal'c]

If she was pregnant, she wouldn't be bleeding. Being pregnant stops your "moon blood", it doesn't make it happen early. The STD idea is pretty ridiculous, though. It seems to be something to do with her womb "sorting itself out" in some way, or at least changing. No idea if it's for the better or for the worse, but it can't really be any worse than it already is since she supposedly can't conceive. It could theoretically also show in some way that time has moved at a different rate for her (i.e. it's just her regular period but the time she thinks she's spent since the last one is different from what it is in reality, for some mysterious reason) or that her body is undergoing a change into some kind of other form, another human-like form that has a shorter menstrual cycle than a human. I really doubt those last two but they're theoretically possible.

I think the illusion to the moon blood being at the wrong time is because it is LATE. She is bleeding from a miscarriage. Plotwise, the Daario affair thus establishes that she is able to conceive. However, because she ate strange berries and then got diarrhea, cramps and vaginal bleeding, we are still unable to ascertain if she is able to bear a living child. We suspect the berries had a Moon Tea effect, but can't rule out that the problem is with Dany's reproductive health.

[assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar]

If she was pregnant, she wouldn't be bleeding. Being pregnant stops your "moon blood", it doesn't make it happen early.

She was pregnant (she hadn't had her period in a while), and she had a miscarriage. That's why she was bleeding.

[Rune Targaryen]

She was pregnant (she hadn't had her period in a while), and she had a miscarriage. That's why she was bleeding.

This is the most likely situation, but is not necessarily true.

[assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar]

This is the most likely situation, but is not necessarily true.

No, it's not necessarily true, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. When you've been having regular unprotected sex, you haven't had your period in eons and eating poisonous berries causes you to bleed profusely from your kingmaker, there's really only one logical conclusion you can draw. ;)

[Mr. E]

No, it's not necessarily true, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. When you've been having regular unprotected sex, you haven't had your period in eons and eating poisonous berries causes you to bleed profusely from your kingmaker, there's really only one logical conclusion you can draw. ;)

So does this mess with what Mirri Maz Duur said? I'v always thought Dany was barren, so it wouldn't matter if she had unprotected sex. Granted, you can be barren simply because you're unable to bring a child to term, so maybe that's it....

[assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar]

So does this mess with what Mirri Maz Duur said? I'v always thought Dany was barren, so it wouldn't matter if she had unprotected sex. Granted, you can be barren simply because you're unable to bring a child to term, so maybe that's it....

Well, to be fair, she still has yet to bear a living child. But the miscarriage shows that she could at least get pregnant.

But Mirri seems to have made a prophecy without really intending to. At face value, her words to Dany seem to just mean, "Never." But if you look at them, they're actually coming true.

Sun rises in the east and sets in the west: Quentyn

Seas go dry: Dothraki Sea in a drought

Mountains crumbling: Dragons destroying Meereenese pyramids

Given that that part has come true, I don't see why Dany couldn't have another child.

[Silver Spearwife]

Well, to be fair, she still has yet to bear a living child. But the miscarriage shows that she could at least get pregnant.

But Mirri seems to have made a prophecy without really intending to. At face value, her words to Dany seem to just mean, "Never." But if you look at them, they're actually coming true.

Sun rises in the east and sets in the west: Quentyn

Seas go dry: Dothraki Sea in a drought

Mountains crumbling: Dragons destroying Meereenese pyramids

Given that that part has come true, I don't see why Dany couldn't have another child.

What about the part where Drogo returns to her? I'm sure that's not meant literally, but does that mean she'll find love again? Or has she already, in Daario?

[assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar]

What about the part where Drogo returns to her? I'm sure that's not meant literally, but does that mean she'll find love again? Or has she already, in Daario?

A lot of people think it means Drogon.

[Corm]

Thanks for the breakdown. I meant to reitterate the original question in a comparison to how awful Rorge and Biter are written as characters. Sorry if that wasn't the way it came across to you. Also...$&@! off.

Please calm down. I thought you just didn't understand the fact that the reason they were on the way to the wall together is that they had all been taken from the black cells. That's the only way I could ever have interpreted that question. The same horrible crime led to the black cells, led to the Wall so I didn't understand any way you could be asking a different question unless you didn't know about the black cells=going to the Wall thing. I wasn't trying to annoy and if I did, I apologise

[King Doug]

TRUE. he is tricksy, but how would he have known how it went down otherwise? he specifically asked sansa if lady olenna fixed her hairnet... i dont remember if he mentioned one of the stones being missing at all, or if he implied it at least

I think there was a scene by the weirwood in the Red Keep where Sansa was changing her clothes right after the assassination. I think she was freaking out when she noticed a stone had 'fallen out.'

[King Doug]

I don't think the adult direwolf and stag deaths have to mean the entire houses. Like, the wolf could just mean Ned (or Ned and Catelyn) and the stag death could just mean Robert. I don't think it has to foreshadow the fates of all the Baratheons.

I agree the dead direwolf symbolizes Ned's death and the Stag Robert's. But could the lack of pups for the Stag possibly be foreshadowing that Robert has no trueborn kids?

[assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar]

I agree the dead direwolf symbolizes Ned's death and the Stag Robert's. But could the lack of pups for the Stag possibly be foreshadowing that Robert has no trueborn kids?

Well stags don't have pups. :P

[King Doug]

Well stags don't have pups. :P

Not the actual stag itself obviously