direwolf_of_white_fangs Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Ned was beheaded by Joff's order. The first dramatic event perhaps to happen in ASOIAF.But what action you think really made him literally loose his head? Was it Sansa when she naively and angry with her father informed Cersei about Ned's plans to escape KL with his daughters?Was it Littlefinger and the GoldCloaks betrayal? LF could have supported Ned. What if Ned accepted LF council ?Declaring open war on the Lannisters and defying Cersei and Tywin ?The curse of the King's hand? Ned's stubborn and arrogant behaviour ?Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonisnoGarySnow Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 When he told Cersei he knew about the twincest. His fate was sealed then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer is Ending Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Setting aside his honor to protect his daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBean Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Ned was beheaded by Joff's order. The first dramatic event perhaps to happen in ASOIAF.But what action you think really made him literally loose his head?Was it Sansa when she naively and angry with her father informed Cersei about Ned's plans to escape KL with his daughters?Was it Littlefinger and the GoldCloaks betrayal? LF could have supported Ned. What if Ned accepted LF council ?Declaring open war on the Lannisters and defying Cersei and Tywin ?The curse of the King's hand?Ned's stubborn and arrogant behaviour ?Anything else?All of the above, I guess? To be honest, I'm not sure there was really a way for Ned to get out of King's Landing unhurt, at least not after he found out about the incest and decided to warn Cersei about it. There were far too many players in the game working to cause chaos, and Ned didn't help things by being so stubborn about his honor. I think Ned had a lot of chances to get a better deal than "conviced of treason and executed" though, and I think the last nail went into his coffin when he refused Renly's help in taking the Lannister kids hostage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Mauldania Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 When he crossed the boss (Littlefinger)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of Judah Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 It was not Sansa's fault let's clear the air on that first. Ned never struck me as arrogant either, definitely naive. I think his own decision making got him killed, when your hand is in the mouth of the lion you should ease it out. Ned learned the hard way that nice guys finish last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkantos Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 What got Ned killed was being married to Cat and being the father of Sansa.Littlefinger didn't take kindly to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direwolf_of_white_fangs Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 It was not Sansa's fault let's clear the air on that first. Ned never struck me as arrogant either, definitely naive. I think his own decision making got him killed, when your hand is in the mouth of the lion you should ease it out. Ned learned the hard way that nice guys finish last.I don't see Ned as being Naive, maybe too honorable, too good and noble for the dirt going around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of Judah Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I don't see Ned as being Naive, maybe too honorable, too good and noble for the dirt going around him.What you said kind of sounds like being naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnorak Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I think trying to redeem Robert got Ned killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 As soon as he confessed to Cersei that he knew the truth about who fathered her children. That's what sealed Robert's fate and, by extension, Ned's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direwolf_of_white_fangs Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 I think if Sansa wouldn't have whispered at Cersei's ears, by the time Cersei knew what was going on Ned and the girls would be safe in a ship on their way to Winterfell. As much as I don't like blaming her she naively acted as a spy and ruined Ned's escape plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longspear Ryk Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Sansa telling Cersei of course...Silly tattletail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I think if Sansa wouldn't have whispered at Cersei's ears, by the time Cersei knew what was going on Ned and the girls would be safe in a ship on their way to Winterfell.As much as I don't like blaming her she naively acted as a spy and ruined Ned's escape plan.I think they'd've been caught either way. I don't think that Sansa telling Cersei caused anything that wasn't already going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 The last out he passed on was saying no to Renly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherbeef Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I think they'd've been caught either way. I don't think that Sansa telling Cersei caused anything that wasn't already going to happen.agreed. Ned also could've better explained the situation to Sansa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarl the climber Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 It was Joff who ordered him killed, I think Joff did this in part because he thought Ned knew that it was him who tried to have Bran killed by an assasin. Joff didn't know about the incest yet so he probaly thought it was this that caused Ned to go against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradivarius Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Going south in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalStarkBannerman Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I think they'd've been caught either way. I don't think that Sansa telling Cersei caused anything that wasn't already going to happen.Page 59 of ACOK (paperback) Cersei says "Eddard Stark was plotting with Renly and he'd written to Lord Stannis, offering him the throne. We might have lost all. Even so, it was a close thing. If Sansa hadn't come to me and told me all her father's plans..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grip Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Meeting with Tywin's daughter and admitting to her that he knows about her and Jaime was a pretty big mistake, threatening her without actually having anything to back it up with was really bad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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