Pod The Impaler Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Buikding such structures at Riverrun would be more difficult to do due to close proximiyt of the rivers there. I doubt they have such deep places in that castle.Anyways, Tully funeral customs preclude having crypts, so I assume the lowest part of that castle would be the dungeons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_of_the_Nightfort Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 Buikding such structures at Riverrun would be more difficult to do due to close proximiyt of the rivers there. I doubt they have such deep places in that castle.Anyways, Tully funeral customs preclude having crypts, so I assume the lowest part of that castle would be the dungeons.I'm not saying they have to be hidden deep underground in a cavern. This doesn't have to be exactly like bran & rickon for it to work. We have plenty of examples in the series of secrets hidden within castles that people forget about. The Red Keep is the epitome of secrecy, but also White Harbor with its hidden passage to the wolf's den. Let's not forget about the hidden passage in Winterfell and the black gate at the Nightfort. All it takes is to have one paranoid tully in the past to put in a medieval "panic room" and you've got your hiding spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Its possible and I know a lot of readers think that there will be a surprise attack of BWB let in to the castle by insiders at the time of Daven's wedding...But I think that Brynden is very smart and very tough - it was his advice on tactics that enabled Robb to capture Jaime - and Jaime also acknowledges to himself that it was a costly error letting him escape and that it would be hard to find him. I think Brynden would know the country thoroughly and he had a night and a day's lead and the loyalty of the small folk so its not that surprising that he has got away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon of the Dead Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I really like this theory and I think it's fairly possible. The only thing that is missing, imo, is a little foreshadowing that such a hiding place exists in Riverrun. I mean, we knew the crypts of Winterfell exist because they were mentioned since the first novel, but I don't remember any mention of a similar place in Riverrun. Still, I think it's pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 "The last place you would expect to find the Blackfish?"With Tysa wherever whores go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Stark Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 "The last place you would expect to find the Blackfish?"With Tysa wherever whores goYou think the Blackfish is in Littlefinger's brothels? Well, that's definitely a new one. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 You think the Blackfish is in Littlefinger's brothels? Well, that's definitely a new one. :)They said the last place, with a series of whores seems to be the last place anyone would think to look. You have to admit, its still 40% less insane than some thing you see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_of_the_Nightfort Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 I really like this theory and I think it's fairly possible. The only thing that is missing, imo, is a little foreshadowing that such a hiding place exists in Riverrun. I mean, we knew the crypts of Winterfell exist because they were mentioned since the first novel, but I don't remember any mention of a similar place in Riverrun. Still, I think it's pretty cool.This is the only reason i'm hesitant to really start believing in this. I like it as a possibility, it would be pretty cool, and there isn't (to my knowledge) any textual evidence that excludes this as a possibility. However, there isn't a textual evidence to support this, as of right now it's just fleeting possibility. I'll have to delve in to some riverrun-centric chapters and really look for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_of_the_Nightfort Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 The other idea that i had was what if the blackfish and his men did hide in riverrun with the intention of ambushing and infiltrating a lannister unit. They would be able to attach themselves to Edmure's escort, they would have some freedom of the castle to be able to operate. Edmure's escort left at the end of feast correct? Has it been confirmed anywhere throughout dance that they made it to the Golden Tooth or casterly rock? surely they've had enough time to get there? He could already be free for all we know....edit: the big question would be "what about jeyne?" for that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthernWarrior Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I actually think this theory, that the Blackfish is actually still in RR, is more plausible then the actual story of him swimming under the portcullis. He'd be abandoning sword and armour and would have no where to go. He would have to sneak through Frey lands to get to Greywater or take the High Road through the Mountain Clans to get to the Vale, with no arms or escort.If you buy that he is with Jeyne, and I do find it odd that Cat repeatedly notices her good child bearing hips yet Jaime notices the exact opposite, then he can definitely be no where but in the Castle. There is no way a pregnant Jeyne could make the swim or that her family would consent to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moss II Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Hasn't GRRM already confirmed that the Jeyne hips comments was a slip-up? And the reason that they showed Robb's wife being murdered at the RW on the show was to end Jeyne has Robb's heir speculation.The Blackfish is at large. I like the idea of him hiding out in Riverrun is a good one, though I favor the concept that he's with tBwB. He'd be invaluable. Cat for all her courage is not a campaigner. The Blackfish is. I can see a coup happen within tBwB if UnCat tries to execute Jamie as the Blackfish will want to trade him for Edmure and Roslin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broke Howard Hughes Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Blackfish is very likely hiding with loyal bannermen waiting for the time to strike. Nobody likes the Freys and I can't imagine having hostages will protect them for long. And thats assuming Jamie didn't take them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeirwoodTreeHugger Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 When it was revealed that Tom o' Sevens had infiltrated Riverrun, my thought was that he would take out Freys from inside the castle. Then this exact scenario played out in Winterfell in ADWD. It would not surprise me at all if he and BF were working together to take out Frey men and cause discord. It doesn't seem likely that in late autumn he could swim very far without getting hypothermia. This is a good theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonesaw Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Making his way back to Riverrun? I can see him leading the BWB if GRRM does not cast UnCat. We have not seen the last of him imho.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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