Martell Spy Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 She picks the people who will tell her what she wants to hear; who support her insanity rather than question her motives. Jaime does that and he isn't around any longer. Cersei is easy pickings for Qyburn. She attracts the kind of people who reflect her own ambitions. Yes. I wonder what Merryweather is up to and who she knows.Wasn't Lady Merryweather shown to be connected to LF? I forget where, but I seem to recall that was somewhere.Cersei also trusted the pretty man who wanted her to build ten huge ships for him, who then sailed off with them. Yes, her reign is basically all about trusting the wrong people. And ironically, thinking the worst about anyone who doesn't flatter her. For example, it's wise to mistrust the Tyrells because they are a pretty ambitious family. But Cersei takes it to a whole new level and always assumes the worst in any action a Tyrell takes, to the point of alienating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingofSothoryos Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Yeah, I definitely think it is odd that Cersei trusts Qyburn even after he seemingly blunders on the first job he has a hand in, plus coupled with her strange distrust of Pycelle who has really gone above and beyond for House Lannister. But I think this is supposed to be about Cersei's lack of judgment in who to trust, because she makes a similar mistake trusting Lady Meriweather, Aurane Waters, and the Kettleblacks. Cersei takes flattery as devotion and secrets shared as commitment. I think most of her advisors and confidants understood this about her early and used it to her advantage to get close to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Yes,he did.But then Cersei took complete ownership of the plan and it's execution.(sic)But there is nothing in her subsequent POV's that show that she followed through with it. Kettleblack was sent off, I believe. I kind of assume this is the cause of the Jon stabbing, although this isn't yet confirmed. The plan wasn't just to attack the NW Commander, but actually to use politics to turn the NW against Commander Snow. And this is kind of what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I have moved my comments to the ADwD forum to avoid spoilers. If anyone would like to reply on that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Balerion Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 As long as an individual flatters her ego and makes her believe she is an awesome ruler and they are her men, Cersei will fall in the trap.Why does this remind me of Dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redriver Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Kettleblack was sent off, I believe. I kind of assume this is the cause of the Jon stabbing, although this isn't yet confirmed. The plan wasn't just to attack the NW Commander, but actually to use politics to turn the NW against Commander Snow. And this is kind of what happened.If a Kettleback was sent off,he didn't arrive.Yes,you can make a case that Cersie's and Qyburn's plan foreshadowed what really happened- "daggers in the dark",but as I say there is no evidence at the Wall or Kings Landing that the plan was ever effected.If you believe that there's a Lannister hand in the Jon assassination,then that hand seems to be Tywin's,post mortem admittedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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