Corvo Attano Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I believe that Mance and the Halfhand are massively overrated.Mance whooped Jon's ass but since when is Jon that great of a swordsman?He was one of the best wildling warriors however considering how Stannis' host smashed the vastly outnumbering them wildling army I'd say they are not that great warriors after all.The Halfhand was one of the best swordsmen in the Night's Watch but as we have seen the Night's Watch is not of the highest quality, frankly compared to the real westerosi armies they're a joke so I'd say any fully trained southern knight could cut the like of Mance and Qhorin to pieces with minimum difficulty.I'm not saying there are no great warriors in the North but I'm saying we should look for them amongst the northern nobles and men at arms not amongst the Night's Watch and wildlings.Qhorin has more experience in actually fighting for his life than anybody else in the world, thats got to count for something. Jon was getting has ass kicked by Qhorin even when he had Longclaw and Qhorin was letting him win - Jon only won because of Ghost. This is also the guy who had his sword hand mangled beyond use (which happened because he grabbed an axe in his bare hand to stop it from slicing his head open), he trained with his left hand and actually became better than before. If theres one thing Qhorin isn't, its overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoofu Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 1. Benjen Stark - First Ranger of the Night Watch2. GreatJon Umber3. Mance4. Qhorin Halfhand5. Roose Bolton --Fights dirty if he has to and been in many battles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Turtle Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 from at leas probably still alive and known to us:Benjen Stark, Jon Snow, Greatjon, Mance, Jorah Mormont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barristan the G.O.A.T Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Why do people think Jon Snow is a great swordsmen or even a notable one?He even admits that he was nothing compared to the Halfhand in ACOK.Jon was 15 in ACOK now that he's older he is one of the best in the watch. However, Mance and Qhorin would still have him beat.........for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barristan the G.O.A.T Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Qhorin has more experience in actually fighting for his life than anybody else in the world, thats got to count for something. Jon was getting has ass kicked by Qhorin even when he had Longclaw and Qhorin was letting him win - Jon only won because of Ghost. This is also the guy who had his sword hand mangled beyond use (which happened because he grabbed an axe in his bare hand to stop it from slicing his head open), he trained with his left hand and actually became better than before. If theres one thing Qhorin isn't, its overrated.I agree with you that Qhorin is a better sword than Jon ATM but you seriously have a biased opinion against Jon. To you Jon Snow sucks at everything and you won't see it any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost's Shadow Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Ain't that the truth of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djinn Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 From the North: Qhorin Half-hand, Jorah Mormont, Mance Rayder, Greatjon Umber, Hellman Tallhart.In the North: Qhorin Half-hand, Mance Rayder, Hosteen Frey, Richard Horpe, Quarl the maid.In the end, giants trump everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterz Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 1 - Qhorin2 - Eddard (He's certainly a very capable warrior)3 - Smalljon / Greatjon Umber4 - Rodrik Cassel/ Jorah Mormont5 - Mance / Benjen StarkHonorable mentions: Jon Snow and Tormund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo Attano Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I agree with you that Qhorin is a better sword than Jon ATM but you seriously have a biased opinion against Jon. To you Jon Snow sucks at everything and you won't see it any other way.I don't think he sucks, I think that people are inflating him to make him seem more important than he actually is. I don't like him much, but im not biased. He's just not terribly interesting for me to read about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knight of Grey Garden Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I don't know why people all rate that high Qhorin Halfhand, I mean he seems pretty badass and killed many wildlings, but seriously defeating wildlings seems like a joke, I mean many of them fight with spears in wood, that's pretty much the worst weapon you can get.Yes he's better than Jon Snow easily and many others, but I guess he is in the Bronn, Lothor Brune type of skills. I wouldn't be surprise if Greatjon Umber, some Glovers, Ser Helman Tallhart, Ser Jorah Mormont, Ser Rodrik Cassel, possibly some mountain chieftain(or even Skaggos canibals haha) and possibly Robb Stark personnal guard were better than him. Ser Marlon Manderly seems like a badass also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 [mod] The mod team decided awhile ago that we won't allow these kinds of threads in the book forums anymore. Please head to Forum Games for such discussions. Thank you. [/mod] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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