THE WATCHER IN THE DARK Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 We knowed that he respected Stannis as a battle commander and that he seemed to have a good opinion of Doran Martell, but what do you think he thought about Ned Stark or Robert or the other leaders.Was Tywin ever scared of Aerys or Rheagar or any other character for that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukthagz Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 He was scared of Tyrion when he showed up with crossbow, but he was willfull enough to not show it. I don't think he was outright scared of anyone but he was wary of plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkhal Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I don't think that he was fearless but that he controlled his fear and did not allow it to control him. But I would think that he feared many things, at one point or another. Just like 99,99% of all humans are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groat Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Of course he felt fear, but rather than afraid of a signle man, he most likely feared the combined strength of Westeros versus the Westerlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE WATCHER IN THE DARK Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 But can you think of anyone specifically that he was wary of like Stannis.I have a feeling he was scared of Doran, he could see that Doran was someone like him, someone who planned and weighed the consequence of every action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Winters Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I think the only time in the books Tywin was scared was when Robb was winning all his battles and kept winning and when Stannis was making his assault on KL. He was scared the Lannisters would be beaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Robert Baratheon maybe, why did Tywin stay away from KL during his reign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukthagz Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 But can you think of anyone specifically that he was wary of like Stannis.At sack of KL, i'm sure he was scared of Aerys doing harm to Jaime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREYJOY4LYFE Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 He was scared of being considered weak. He grew up with his father being an extremely weak and saw his father's bannemen and the other lords of Westeros walk right over him, bringing shame to House Lannister. I think he lived his whole life to ensure that House Lannister would never be considered one to be taken advantage of again and insisting upon the Seven Kingdoms that it was a house to be feared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefingers In The Air Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Probably me. Definitely Roose. Everyone is scared of Roose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agirlsaysaname Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I think Tywin was afraid all his life. Afraid of death, afraid of insignificance, afraid of being forgotten, and afraid of how his kids might impact his legacy. He's actually a rather pathetic character when I think about his motivations and overall way he led his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Damian Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 King Aerys, Robert Baratheon, Ned stark, Doran Martell, Mace Tyrell. They were his equals and therefore in his own lifetime, with their hosts around them a threat. Tywin always had to eventually rely on treachery and deception to take on anyone that was not one of his own rebelious bannermen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mountain That Flies Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 He was scared of being considered weak. He grew up with his father being an extremely weak and saw his father's bannemen and the other lords of Westeros walk right over him, bringing shame to House Lannister. I think he lived his whole life to ensure that House Lannister would never be considered one to be taken advantage of again and insisting upon the Seven Kingdoms that it was a house to be feared.This. Tywin's fear would have been an intellectual fear of the ways his house could fall, rather than an instinctive fear of a specific person. We know that even as a ten year old Tywin had a pretty intimidating presence, and his position as a High Lord would have meant he rarely, if ever, contemplated being in physical danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor's Nancy Boy Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 No, I don't believe anyone in particular scared him except maybe Tyrion before he was killed. He was certainly surprised anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juli Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 He was scared of being considered weak. He grew up with his father being an extremely weak and saw his father's bannemen and the other lords of Westeros walk right over him, bringing shame to House Lannister. I think he lived his whole life to ensure that House Lannister would never be considered one to be taken advantage of again and insisting upon the Seven Kingdoms that it was a house to be feared.This...not someone...I guess himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I think Tywin was wary of many, but I doubt he was really afraid of them.Those that he was likely wary towards were: Robert Baratheon (for the sake of the potential army Robert could raise if he had to), Aerys (for the sake of his son), Stannis, and Doran.Though the information is scarce, I'm sure he showed caution towards men like Jon Arryn and Hoster Tully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotherAnduin Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I always thought that he took Doran too lightly. He wouldn't even give up Gregor for Doran. Where does it say Tywin was afraid of Doran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo Attano Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 King Aerys, Robert Baratheon, Ned stark, Doran Martell, Mace Tyrell. They were his equals and therefore in his own lifetime, with their hosts around them a threat. Tywin always had to eventually rely on treachery and deception to take on anyone that was not one of his own rebelious bannermen.Aerys was mad, Bob was a drunken whoremonger, Ned let honour cloud his judgement, Doran never does anything, and Mace is an oaf.I don't think Tywin feared people, but rather he feared what they could do to his legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 He was scared of being considered weak. He grew up with his father being an extremely weak and saw his father's bannemen and the other lords of Westeros walk right over him, bringing shame to House Lannister. I think he lived his whole life to ensure that House Lannister would never be considered one to be taken advantage of again and insisting upon the Seven Kingdoms that it was a house to be feared. :agree:Also, wasn't he kind of wary/afraid of Stannis? IIRC, he was worried about him even during the time period between the Blackwater and the Red Wedding. Or am I wrong about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio Africanus Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 The only thing Tywin ever was afraid of, was his family's reputation.If only he really did fear actual people more and at least consider their feelings, he might be alive by ADWD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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