Nami Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Is there a theory about how Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark could be respectively Bael the Bard and the daughter of Lord Brandon Stark reincarnated?The tale is mentioned and is obviously a indirect reference to the whole R+L affairWinter rosesRhaegar was a skilled musician, just like Bael the BardLyanna crying when she saw Rhaegar playing. Could it be recognition?Sudden rapture and running away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya_Ghostface Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Would that also mean that Lyanna will be returned to her father like Brandon's daughter was to him? Or that her son will kill Rhaegar? Since they're all dead (except Jon if R+L=J), that's unlikely. But I like the idea of the parallel, it's romantic in a way :DI think there is some significance in the tale though, or why have Jon hear it at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy from the Vale Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Is there a theory about how Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark could be respectively Bael the Bard and the daughter of Lord Brandon Stark reincarnated?The tale is mentioned and is obviously a indirect reference to the whole R+L affairWinter rosesRhaegar was a skilled musician, just like Bael the BardLyanna crying when she saw Rhaegar playing. Could it be recognition?Sudden rapture and running awayYes, the idea that the Bael the Bard story is really a prophecy has been around.ETA: to expand on that, the setting is after Aegon's Landing, because the Stark in Winterfell is only a Lord and there's the Kingsroad, but it's also during a Bolton uprising, which had not been seen for 1000 years before the start of the series, way before Aegon's Landing. The current time is the first time after Aegon's Landing that Boltons are again flaying Starks (or Greyjoys, as is...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Yes, the idea that the Bael the Bard story is really a prophecy has been around.ETA: to expand on that, the setting is after Aegon's Landing, because the Stark in Winterfell is only a Lord and there's the Kingsroad, but it's also during a Bolton uprising, which had not been seen for 1000 years before the start of the series, way before Aegon's Landing. The current time is the first time after Aegon's Landing that Boltons are again flaying Starks (or Greyjoys, as is...)Not exactly. It's Ygritte who tells the story. Ygritte, the illiterate Wildling girl. Ygritte without any political education or about histories of the Seven Kingdoms. Ygritte who mistakes a shitty little holdfast for an impressive castle.She isn't exactly somebody who would get the details right about the ancient political structure or infrastructure of the Seven Kingdoms, nor are most wildlings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Rayne Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Is there a theory about how Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark could be respectively Bael the Bard and the daughter of Lord Brandon Stark reincarnated?The tale is mentioned and is obviously a indirect reference to the whole R+L affairWinter rosesRhaegar was a skilled musician, just like Bael the BardLyanna crying when she saw Rhaegar playing. Could it be recognition?Sudden rapture and running awayI don't think they're the reincarnations of Bael and Lady Stark but I think they were both influenced by that story and tried to relive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joluoto Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Reincarnations? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey family reunion Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 It appears many of the ancient stories, whether true or fictional, seem to be recurring in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy from the Vale Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Not exactly. It's Ygritte who tells the story. Ygritte, the illiterate Wildling girl. Ygritte without any political education or about histories of the Seven Kingdoms. Ygritte who mistakes a shitty little holdfast for an impressive castle.She isn't exactly somebody who would get the details right about the ancient political structure or infrastructure of the Seven Kingdoms, nor are most wildlingsThis is certainly true, but we have to consider as well what Martin wants to tell us through that story, and the fact that the Boltons are for the first time since the Landing rebelling against the Starks means that now is the time that the story of Bael the Bard is true ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 Reincarnations? Really?people rising from the dead? really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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