MaggiM Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I have always liked (f)Aegon and thought he was an interesting diversion on Tyrion's way to Mereen. I liked reading about him and was pretty surprised of the amount of bile and vitriol on the forums over him when I started reading (f)Aegon threads. The two major criticisms against him hold very little weight with me.1) "he showed up too late in the game and I will never like him because I have established favourites and can't possibly like several different characters"- This is bizarre to me for two reasons. Firstly its GRRM's story - he can introduce characters at any time without his fan base's permission. And secondly, Aegon is mentioned dozens of times with very graphic descriptions of Gregor's awful bashing of his skull. It was a surprise to find him alive but I had come to the conclusion as to his identity while Tyrion was working it out and was not shocked by the final sentence that confirmed my suspicions. We knew enough about his supposed death, and the circumstances leading to it, to make the rational behind him being alive at least plausible. If you think of aSoIaF as one book overall, Aegon is a plot twist in the middle of a story that we don't yet know the end of, or the length of for that matter. I have never understood the assertion that just because he was not introduced in person (though he was in name and lineage) from GoT he is somehow invalid as an actual part of the story.2) "He is not a real Targaryen". I don't know why this matters as to his likabilitiy. If he is Rhaygar's son, he's a cool addition to an almost extinct Targ line up. If he is not, he is likely a descendant from a bad ass Blackfyre. Either makes him a historically important character. And what's more, if he is isn't a Targ, I'm not certain how it will ever come out. JonCon believes he is Rhaygar's son, Aegon believes he is Rhaygar's son, Tyrion believes he is Rhaygar's son - the only people who would ever know he was a plant would be Varys/Illyrio and it does their cause absolutely no good to tell anyone he isn't a Targ. GRRM has promised we would never see a Varys POV and I would be shocked if we ever get an Illyrio POV. Short of him getting eaten by a dragon I'm not sure how the story could unfold to show he was an un-Targ.The way I see it he can't be both an unimportant waste of time and a part of some huge multigenerational revenge conspiracy that culminates with him taking the throne. I for one think he is an interesting wrench in the works and am delighted at the thought of reading Cersie find out about him.ETA: Sorry I realize now this is a bit serious of a post for such a light hearted thread but I have been holding this mini-rant in for a while now = P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AegonTargaryen Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Already like him. Btw if he's fake he's just a random dude. I honestly find the Blackfyre theory to be so absurd and far fetched, but it seems to have caught on here.Oh and I love Varys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Stannis Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 George doesn't need our permission to introduce someone this late in the game, but by the same token, we don't have to like the plot/character either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggiM Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 George doesn't need our permission to introduce someone this late in the game, but by the same token, we don't have to like the plot/character eitherOf course, I just think that if the only reason a person can come up with for not liking a character is because they are introduced in a way they don't approve of its a pretty weak premise for the amount of hate he inspires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanzaiZ Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Of course, I just think that if the only reason a person can come up with for not liking a character is because they are introduced in a way they don't approve of its a pretty weak premise for the amount of hate he inspires.Characters are hated for far, far less than that. Not that I don't lean towards liking the guy (or that I agree with the common criticisms), but liking a character or not can be extremely capricious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon of the Dead Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Of course, I just think that if the only reason a person can come up with for not liking a character is because they are introduced in a way they don't approve of its a pretty weak premise for the amount of hate he inspires.Oh, I know a lot of people who hate Aegon because of the way he was introduced; they think it's like a soap-opera twist that a seemingly dead character conviniently turns out to be alive. I can't say I blame them, as I myself don't like it much, but that's not the reason why I'm not very fond of the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Aegon is less of a character and more of a plot device. With this in mind, i certainly find him kind of awesome. The spanner in the works that just totally skews everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 If he is Aegon Targaryen VI then I would like it more simply because it would prove Varys' honesty. But I don't think I would ever root for him much because the last dance involved the right person for the job being passed over just because she was a she and the queen wanted her kid on the throne. I think Dany's whole arc is to try and correct that mistake, to show that a competent queen can rule just as well or better than any king. I think Aegon will get caught up too much in the game and Dany will end the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon of the Dead Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Aegon is less of a character and more of a plot device. With this in mind, i certainly find him kind of awesome. The spanner in the works that just totally skews everything.I agree, I like him more if I think of him as a plot twist with legs :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Beyond the Wall Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 .......In my case, I would care for Aegon's character if:1. He starts showing some personality2. He becomes attached to a very important character since I personally don't care much about JonCon and the Martells. But if he were to marry, for example, Sansa, then I'd be more interested to read about him and even root for him.What about you?He will be more developed as a character in TWOW. I think we need more of his history, and a better POV in his arc. I care about the Martells because of the murder of Elia and her children, however, they will be more interesting as their characters come to life in TWOW.Edit for autocorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Beyond the Wall Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Oh, I know a lot of people who hate Aegon because of the way he was introduced; they think it's like a soap-opera twist that a seemingly dead character conviniently turns out to be alive. I can't say I blame them, as I myself don't like it much, but that's not the reason why I'm not very fond of the guy.A seemingly dead character coming back is no less soap-opera than a bastard being a king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timm Snow Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 targ or blackfyre. where is the difference? neither are kings of westeros to me. but seeing how (f)aegon ranks significantly higher than dany in my book, i would root for him if he were to oppose the mother of dragons... slaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon of the Dead Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 A seemingly dead character coming back is no less soap-opera than a bastard being a king.I don't know, I don't particularly dislike Aegon for that, I've just seen a lot of people who do :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordelor Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I kind of like Aegon, I prefare him above Dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire Dalbridge Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 If I was a Blackfyre loyalist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb Stark KitN Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Better than Dany winning the Iron Throne. But Stannis and Tommen stand in his way. Stannis is still true heir to the Iron Throne.Stannis to win battle of Winterfell, abandons North after he hears of Storms End being assaulted. Dies at the hands of Connington. Sad.P.S. He has to be real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Beyond the Wall Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I don't know, I don't particularly dislike Aegon for that, I've just seen a lot of people who do :dunno:Agreed, definitely not a reason to dislike him. But...no doubt that the underdog bastard becoming the hero of the story is hugely cliche. Not that I mind....I always root for the underdog. That's why I like Dany, joking. I like Dany, but not because she is an underdog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greg of House House Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 He must reveal he's a Blackfyre and slay Dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon of the Dead Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 He must reveal he's a Blackfyre and slay Dany.It will be the other way around, me thinks, since she is the slayer of lies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire and Blood! Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 what you talking about i'm already rooting for him he is a Targ for me until proven otherwise. :agree: You took the word out of my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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