shockwave Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 In the books, Aegon V was the grandfather of Aerys and Steffon Baratheon. And the great-grandfather of Robert. In the show, Aegon V's second son Jaehaerys II is removed (not like he did anything) making Aerys II his son. How about Roberts grandmother? They they alter this also on the show, maybe Roberts mother being Egg's daugher instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hairy bear Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I doubt that they have considered it one way or another. I doubt that the show will ever explain Robert's claim to the throne. Just as they erased Jahaerys II from history to simplify it for the viewers, they will reduce Robert's claim just to "right of conquest" and leave it at that. They avoid complexity, so for show purposes I'd assume that Robert is not necessarly related to the Targs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Actually I'm pretty sure in the Histories and Lineages of the 7Kdoms from the first series you can see a Baratheon/Targaryen marriage though I'm, not sure if it was Robert's Grandmother. In any case I didn't catch it myself but the Unsullied picked up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromancer Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Actually I'm pretty sure in the Histories and Lineages of the 7Kdoms from the first series you can see a Baratheon/Targaryen marriage though I'm, not sure if it was Robert's Grandmother. In any case I didn't catch it myself but the Unsullied picked up on it. It was the fact that Robert is descended from Orys Baratheon, who was (allegedly) a half-brother of Aegon the Conquerer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franko99 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Well, in the blu-ray extras (history and lore) it is mentioned that Robert had a claim because his Targaryen ancestry. And i guess there must be a mention of it in the show because as protar mention, TWOP's unsullied knows about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Well, in the German version of GoT Aerys II is still the grandson of Aegon the Unlikely. But I guess they can always make Rhaelle Aerys's sister if they really wanted to include that particular tidbit of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Well, in the blu-ray extras (history and lore) it is mentioned that Robert had a claim because his Targaryen ancestry. And i guess there must be a mention of it in the show because as protar mention, TWOP's unsullied knows about it Through Orys Baratheon. The extras sum it up as Robert saying "The truth is, I took it (the Iron Throne)" With Robert and Renly dead, Stannis not caring about their ancestors and Daennerys hating the Baratheons anyway, I don't think they have any reason to include that particular detail into the show cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Scorpion Knight Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I think they make rhaelle Aemons and eggs sister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Snow Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I wouldn't say they avoid complexity, but confusion. A lot of what they do is out of necessity because TV is a vastly different medium from literature. It's complex for a visual medium. There's also the S1E2 conversation between Robert and Ned where Ned says "you had the better claim". Implying their was something more than right of conquest going on. In the end, it's not adding complexity that Robert has maternal Targ blood - it's confusing and irrelevant to the plot in the big picture. GRRM has as many pages as he wants to write whatever details he wants. The show has 10 hours to squeeze 1000+ page books into. ASOS is so long and plot-heavy they needed two seasons! You gotta leave some things out, especially if you want to add in awesome scenes like the ones with non-POV characters that we didn't get in the books. Would you rather the show spend a few minutes explaining Robert's grandmother was Targaryen and that's why they decided during the rebellion to declare Robert the King, or a few minutes of a superbly-acted battle of wits between LF and Varys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Yesterday I watched those history and lore shorts from the season 3 bluray. In one of them Varys mentions Robert has a Targaryan mother. So I guess Cassana Estermont went the same way as Jaehaerys II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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