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  1. After seeing what they are doing with season 1, I don't think that they'll scrap any of the main characters. So far, we have seen them including plenty of characters that they could have easily axed: Ryan Redwyne, maester Mellos and Boremund Baratheon could have easily been replaced by Westerling, Orwyle and Borros from the beginning. Daeron can easily be born during the time jump that will take place before the next episode. As for the Dragonseeds, and I'd also say they'll include all of them. The relationships between Corlys and Addam, and Daemon and Neetles, are too interesting and full of possibilites to wave away. And while it's true that Hugh and Ulf could be combined in a single character, maintaining the two will allow for conversations between them where we can see what they are thinking. Also, they may even work as a comic duo. As for the rest of the supporters that you mention, I agree that some or all of them may be eliminated.
  2. One may wonder if we wouldn't have gotten a still worse image of them if we had seen a chronicle from the black side. In Aemond's case even the best of the propagandists couldn't make look good someone who murders thirteen year old nephews and spends half the war burning commoners for the sake of it. But it's worth noting that the Hightowers themselves receive a fairly good treatment. I would be very interested in knowing how it's possible that most of their own bannermen turned against them (Beesbury, Costayne and Mullendore are black, we don't hear about Bulwers and Cuys participating in the war). It's entirely possible that Ormund and his father had been pieces of shit. I think the former is due to his sexism, not being able to grasp that a woman can have any agency of its own. As I see it, the later is a common defamation tactic: just cite a rumor, thus contributing to spread it while appearing uncommitted. But, to be fair, I believe his version is the closest to the truth in most of the pre-Dance issues. Orwyle wrote his memories under the auspices of the Hand Tyland Lannister, another green. At that time, the regents were Unwin Peake (green), Roland Westerling (green), Manfryd Mooton (originally black, then green), Torrhen Manderly (black), and Munkun (from Oldtown). Those are the men that Orwyle really wanted to ingratiate with in order to save his skin. Not an eleven year old boy. His portrayal of the Green Council is almost comical. How he starts by making it clear that he initially wanted to crown Rhaenyra, how he insists that they discussed at length about legality and precedent (presenting only the arguments of one side), how he insists that the blacks are legitimately afraid of Daemon and Rhaenyra killing them once they get the throne, how Orwyle doesn't intervene in the debate until the end when a decision is already taken, how Tyland keeps a low-profile... we can be assured that the real council was very different from that.
  3. Yes. And the hooded guy is surely Daemon, who has already used that outfit when killing Rhea and when bribing Qarl. That's not quite right. The three chroniclers of the Dance are, in a way, all more favorable to the greens than the blacks: Septon Eustace is clearly on the green side. He was the one who personally crowned Aegon II, and went so far as to fabricate lies to put the blacks in a bad light (the throne reufusing Rhaenyra). Orwyle was part of the green council, and his betrayal was crucial in the early stages of the Dance. It's true that he writes his memories while on prison and trying to plead mercy, but the way he tries to justify his actions (and by extension, the actions of the green side) is also a biased version Mushroom, as you say, is just salacious. But his lies or exaggerations harm the black side much more: Rhaenyra being a wanton with dozen of lovers, openly saying that Rhaenyra's sons are all Harwin's, accusing Daemon of orchestrating Laenor's murder, accusing Corlys of the fire at Harrenhal, claiming that Jace broke his marriage vows,... I don't think the rumors he spreads about the greens are nearly as detrimental for them. And it's not only that. Glyndayn, Yandel and Munkun are all maesters, educated on Oldtown and very likely to gave a pro-green bias (either consciously, or due to the influence og the Hightowers). In short, I don't think we've ever heard about the Dance from a truly black point of view.
  4. I'd say Viserys doesn't pay much attention to his children with Alicent. We saw that when Aemond lost his eye, and he didn't seem particularly concerned about his well-being. The reasons for that may be a combination of Viserys' precarious health, Alicent's overbearing and overprotective attitude towards her offspring, and the fact that the older one turned out to be an idiot.
  5. The last instance of polygamy in the family dates from a century ago, and it was done by the infamous Maegor. Jaehaerys I had a hard time convincing the realm and the Faith to accept the doctrine of Exceptionalism. The exchange I quoted clearly proves that both Daemon and Rhaenyra believe that Laenor should be "dead" in order for them to marry. If they thought that the realm, the king or the Velaryons would accept polygamy, then they wouldn't have had any need of such a risky and contrived plot. I'd say it's even possible that Daeron will be born during the last time jump between episodes 7 and 8. I could see why they want Joffrey to be slightly older than Dareon. For Joff they'll need and actor that'll be present at many scenes (he'll always be around Rhaenyra) and that will need to play convincingly how he wants to fight until he tries to ride her mother's dragon. Meanwhile, I guess Daeron will have lesser screentime, and as a character he just gets pushed around by older men. I play the video at a 0,25 pace, while pausing every few seconds and making constant screencaps. It's impossible to get any sense of it otherwise. It should be completely revamped for the second season. Well, we'll have to see how they justify a badly wounded Sunfyre reuniting with Aegon. It's something they should address then. I honestly do not have much hopes in them doing so. I claim that it's "bad writing" and "makes no sense" because up to this point, Laenor wasn't written as someone who would make such a drastic decision. A few minutes ago Laenor said that he loved "his children", and that he wanted to commit more to Rhaenrya's cause. Using your own words, he had never been portrayed as someone "very selfish". If we had seen Corlys privately belittling him because of his inability to produce a legitimate son, if we had seen Rhaenys telling him that she was ashamed of him, if we had seen him distant from the kids and struggling to treat them as their own, if we had seen that he was really in love with Qarl and he was being forced to separate from him... then I may still say I don't like their choice, but I wouldn't say it's badly written.
  6. Two lines: Daemon: We could not marry unless Laenor were dead. Rhaenyra: I know. Corlys knew Daemon well. They were together in the Stepstones campaign for many year. It's easy to infer that some degree of friendship evolved from there. Daemon had been in a loveless and politically inconvenient marriage for a decade and the only thing that he had done was complaining.
  7. Different servants. The one Daemon kills is a mature guard. The one that calls for help is a younger page, with a different dress. It's only a plothole if you buy that Daemon was behind Laenor's murder. I don't think he was. I'm sure Corlys didn't think he was.
  8. I really enjoyed that one until the last few minutes. What they come up with Laenor's exit just doesn't work for me, and the more I think about it, the more I hate it. Good things: Plenty of memorable great scenes, with excellent scripting and acting: the funeral, Aemond's ride, the brawl where he loses his eye, the confrontation at the Great Hall, Otto not reprimanding Alicent,... The kid actors were all great, bearing the weight of many scenes with great performances. A pitty that we have to see them go. This show keeps replacing every young actor right after they shine. It's a good thing that by now I'm confident that the replacements will be just as good. Replacing Joffrey by Baela and Rhaena was a great idea. It's also nice to add the notion that Vhagar was supposed to be claimed by Rhaena. It makes sense in-world, and adds an additional layer to Aemond's transgression. Things I didn't like: Having Laenor fake his death doesn't work at many levels. One would have to be completely soulless to put your parents through this, right after their other child has just died. If they wanted to go that way they should have shown Laenor feeling uncomfortable at home, and distanced from Corlys and Rhaenys. Also, I don't think Rhaenyra would have wanted to make her sons lose their other father figure. It's really cruel. The execution of their plan also streched credulity. Once the young page fled for help, the guards would be there in a minute. I don't think that would be enough time to dress a dead man in Laenor's clothes, put the body in the fireplace, burn it past the point of recognition, and leave the castle unnoticed. And finally, it will cause a lot of complications in the future seasons. As you have already noted, Seasmoke should follow him just as Sunfyre followed Aegon, and after Luke's death and particularly after Rhaenys', Laenor not returning to fight the greens will make no sense (I'm completely convinced that this is the last that we've seen of Laenor. There's no way he'll replace the Hull boys.). I'm sorry, but Laenor had to die. The show's decision to have Daemon murder Rhea is also a problem here. With him marrying Rhaenyra right after Laenor's death, there's no way that Corlys and Rhaenys wouldn't suspect of him. Random thoughts: After GoT endless scenes of sexposition and gratuitous nudity, it shocked me that Daemon and Rhaenyra's sex scene was that pruddishly filmed. The episode includes the first reference to Alicent's supporters as "the greens". It's reasonable for them to be known by this moniker at that point, but they'll have to invent an excuse to call the other side "the blacks". I hope it doesn't come from nowhere.
  9. I've given it a 7. It would have had a couple of points more if it weren't for Laenor's fake death, which is a plot turn that I hated.
  10. That's debatable. Jaehaerys, not only once but twice, had been allowed to choose his heir disregarding "the laws and customs" and going by personal preference. Viserys was too naive, that's true, but if his immediate family and his small council had respected his wishes, the succession would have gone as planned and no lord in Westeros would have had any say on the matter. "Spur of the moment"?! Not even close. Luce was completely non-confrontational, suposed no threat, and had already left when Aemond decided that he wanted to kill him. Then he left Storm's End's hall, went for Vhagar, mounted her and proceeded to go after Luce. All this should take many minutes. More than enought to qualify as a murder. I don't think any one has ever argued that Blood and Cheese's actions are even worse. But it remains a fact that the greens were the firsts to spoil blood (not only Luke's, but Lord Beesbury's too). What makes them the bad guys is what they do during this time: seizing all their oponents at court (that is the people who they thing that would honor the late king's will) to execute them. I fail to see why being prone to secede against a foreign invader is a bad thing, but anyway, blaming them as "oportunistic" in the context of the Dance of Dragons makes no sense. The greens are the ones that conspired in secrecy to get the throne. The greens are the ones who wanted to involve the Greyjoys in the War by bribing them with a position in the Council. The Reach does not side with the greens. The Tyrells declare neturality, and the rest of the houses are split (I'd say that there are more black than green houses from the Reach) Daeron is nothing more than a young teen enshrined by propaganda. None of her actions indicate that he could have been a great monarch, and in fact, the lack of courage at confronting Hugh and Ulf indicates the opposite. He was poisoned precisely because he was about to murder Aegon III.
  11. When the episode started with Arondir triggering the tower that is kept standing by a rope and that collapses on demand onto the invading army, I thought that it couldn't get more stupid than that. But then the episode ends with the sword that opens the dam than activates the volcano. Just wow. Btw, why did the orcs wanted the broken blade so badly if all they needed is to deviate the river? And how did the Numenóreans know which town in the Southlands they needed to ride to? This show really requires to turn your brain off. I'd really like to know what Tolkien would say of this Galadriel that promotes genocide and threats to murder prisoners in order to obtain confessions. Such a nice lady.
  12. Thanks Ran for this very interesting interview. The part that has been more revealing to me is when he claims that "we were looking at the Targaryens as our Cesarian Romans and the sense of this period of decadence". As I see it, most of the missteps in the show so far can be explained by the writers taking that parallel too far. The multiple tourney deaths make no sense if the fighters are sons of noble houses, but are perfectly in line with slave gladiators. The orgies from the tapestries, the lack of consequences to Joffrey's murder, etc. all fit much better in the early Principate than in a medieval-like setting.
  13. After Robert's death, Cersei is named "Queen Regent and Protector of the Realm", which means that she can act in name of the king and command the armies. Technically, she would outrank his father (as Hand) and Tyrion (acting Hand), although Westeros being a patriarchal society and her owing obedience to her father muddy the waters. But theory, she would be the most powerful person in the realm.
  14. I think the key element to consider here is not the clarity of the succession rules, but the cultural environment. Fratricide was not acceptable in medieval Europe, and George has established many times that in Westeros there is a very strong cultural taboo against kinslaying. If we come back to the Anarchy as the inspiration for the Dance, then we should remember that Matilda didn't execute his cousin Stephen when he was her prisoner. Killing close relatives, particularly siblings, it's something that just wasn't done in medieval Europe. At least not openly. I disagree. Once you conclude that Cersei's children aren't Robert's, you have to start wondering who the father is. And the thing is that a queen living in a castle will have no opportunity to spend any time alone with a man. She would normally be surrounded at all times by multiple servants, pages and ladies-in-waiting. Having lived at court for some time, it would be easy for Ned to realize that the only men with whom Cersei could spend some time alone would be Robert and Jaime. Add to that Cersei and Jaime's closeness and pathological narcissism, and it should be enough to convince yourself that you're on the right track.
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