Castamere crimson lions Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Maybe a new grand maester recently elevated only to be killed after letting us all in on some of there plans. I'm picturing a meeting in old town with all the arch marsters of importance and as soon as it ends something goes down maybe a faceless man or iron born Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Dead Just Broken Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 The overall theme of the prologues is magic or mystical forces. So: AGOT: White Walkers/WightsACOK: Melisandre/ Magic of the Red GodASOS: White Walker attackAFFC: Faceless man dissolving Pate and stealing his identityADWD: Skinchanger; more White Walkers/Wights We also have the North/South alternating pattern which points to a Southern POV in TWOW. It's been discussed here before I think about how we've seen few examples of the power of the Seven. It wouldn't surprise me to see a KL based prologue that demonstrate the High Sparrow's mystical powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseHB Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 The overall theme of the prologues is magic or mystical forces. So: AGOT: White Walkers/WightsACOK: Melisandre/ Magic of the Red GodASOS: White Walker attackAFFC: Faceless man dissolving Pate and stealing his identityADWD: Skinchanger; more White Walkers/Wights We also have the North/South alternating pattern which points to a Southern POV in TWOW. It's been discussed here before I think about how we've seen few examples of the power of the Seven. It wouldn't surprise me to see a KL based prologue that demonstrate the High Sparrow's mystical powers.Maybe the prologue is the high septon in Kings Landing and Varys kills him to delay Cersei's trial causing more chaos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekid Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Could it be Pyat Pree? Could be interesting, to learn more about the magic of the world, and Crow's Eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Cornholio! Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I don't think the pattern on the odd books (GoT, SoS, DwD) is being a brother of the NW, its being north of the wall, and having something to do with magic that's prevalent beyond the wall. GoT- Will- slain by an Other SoS- Chett- slain by an other DwD- Varamyr- killed during a skinchange Meanwhile, the even books (CoK, FfC) center around maesters/maester novices, who are killed by magic not from Westeros CoK- Cressen- poisons himself with the strangler FfC- Pate- bites on poisoned FM coin All this being said, if George follows the pattern, I think the WoW prologue character will be Maester Lomys of Highgarden, as the Ironborn attack. It would hold true to this previous pattern (if it is as much), if Euron uses the warlocks he has prisoner to somehow attack Highgarden and kill people, Maester Lomys included. So, Maester Lomys will be my official guess until WoW comes out. I like the pattern, but think it will either be in Essos or the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jentario Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 2 sets don't define a pattern. I think the ACTUAL pattern (if one exists at all) is North/South and not North/Maester. We may also get an Essos prologue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~No One~ Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'm hoping it's Marwyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Tahu Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'm hoping it's Marwyn. But that means he will die before he has made any real contribution to the plot, making his introduction in Sam's chapter a pointless waste of time. The prologues have all had some relevance to the plot of that book, and I would say that there has been a Beyond the Wall - South/Maester - Beyond the Wall pattern. So my guesses are: TWoW: Maester at Storm's End as Aegon takes the castle. Aegon is almost certain to have a large impact on many storylines in TWoW. ADoS: Bowen Marsh (assuming he is still alive, maybe Alliser Thorne if he isn't? Or possibly even Benjen?), witnessing the collapse of the Wall and the Other's passing south of it. It is a given that the Others are going to be one of the main focuses of the final book, and it is almost a given that the Wall will collapse, so I would be willing to bet a large amount of money that the ADoS prologue will feature the collapse of the Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fred of Mole's Town Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Possible prologue musings: 1) Darkstar: assassination of a Tyrell, thoughts of Myrcella incident2) Benjen way up north (with the Thenns or CotF)3) Nymeria and her wolves in the riverlands or up north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Twins Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 How about this? Maester Harmune, the maester with Cotter Pyke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crow's Third Eye Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 2 sets don't define a pattern. I think the ACTUAL pattern (if one exists at all) is North/South and not North/Maester. We may also get an Essos prologue. Hoping for a Daario or Shavepate then. Daario could end with him, ah, "learning to fly"....just not very well :) Shavepate could end with his death after revealing he was the poisoner (As many believe, and on a re-read I kind of began to understand) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerJamie Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'm hoping for Cotter Pyke's maester, the one who writes his letters. Really curious to find out more on the situation at Hardhome. Pycelle could shed some light on the truth about Aegon, and there's Marwyn and Qyburn too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Idle Raven Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 How about an as yet unknown Skagosi clan leader? This could serve to bring together a number of story threads that appear to be converging in the area on the Bay of Seals within a rough triangle that has its corners at Hardhome, Skagos and Eastwatch. This could serve to tie together: 1. The potential location of Rickon, Osha and Shaggydog; either on Skagos or at Hardhome.2. Davos Seaworth and his attempt to persuade these three to return with him to White Harbour/Wyman Manderly/Stannis.3. Cotter Pyke and the attempts to rescue the Wildlings at Hardhome; "dead things in the water" etc.4. Attitudes of the Skagosi towards involving themselves in the war against the Boltons.5. Potentially, the reaction of Eastwatch to the Bowen Marsh led attack on Jon Snow and its aftermath, assuming that they know about it. Having one of the Eastwatch galleys docked or driven ashore there could be a way to do this. 6. A POV description of Skagos, at least one of its settlements/fortresses and an introduction to its clans and social structure.7. The possibility of a Skagosi relating further information about the Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTD Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 My guesses are either a Dothraki looking for Dany, Cotter Pyke or (again) some fucking Master:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razha Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 So most of the suggestions above usually are based on supposition that : a) there is some fixed pattern of prologues - like north/south or others/maistersb) TWOW prologue will be more like AGOT or ASOS prologues - i.e. shows something connected with events early in the book. But what of there is no pattern? and also at this point we have certain vague ideas about the events in the beginning of TWOW - but we know much less about events that happen at the end of the book -so for instance if at the end of TWOW we have someting happening in Casterly Rock - there is a good chance that prologue will be happening there. Only ASOS prologue describes the event that directly leads into the Sam's chapters in that book, whileThe prologue of the ACOK is connected with beheading early in the book, but it is also used to introduce the menace that reappears much later in the series ACOK prologue introduced the characters (Stannis and company) that were not shown in the first book and that turned out to be the game changers in the middle of the book.AFFC and ADWD prologues have stories that are linked with the events at the very end of the book (and in case of ADWD the varamyr prologue only hints at Jon,s varging/ressurection possibility- we don't even see it in that book). I don't believe there is any pattern of Prologues. Martin uses them to advance the story, and to introduce the elements that play out / have influence on the developments later in the book. I believe if GRRM needs it, TWOW prologue can be from any place in essos or westeros, involving characters of any background and profession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ours if the Fury Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I like the idea of the prologue being Pycelle. Would be interesting to see if Varys gave a speech like he did Kevan to Pycelle. Also, a Pycelle POV could give us insight into the Citadel and their possibly anti magic objectives. I love this theory, i want it so bad now !!! :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Damian Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Garlan or Ser Willas's before their death by Euron's own hand. It is long past time for the turn cloak-back-and- forth Tyrells to start losing numbers and leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Cooterian Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 AGoT: North of the Wall=Ice - first encounter with WW's.AKoC: South of the Wall=fire - Melissandre and her giftsASoS: North of the Wall=ice - prequal to the battle at the Fist of the First MenAFoC: South of the Wall=fire(?) - Pate gets a key for something at the citadelADwD: North of the Wall=ice - Varamyr class on Skinchanging 101 fairly obvious to see where I'm headed: TWoW: South of the Wall=fire Others have made apoint that every prologue has ended up with someone dying: AGoT: WaymarAKoC: Maester CressenASos: actually no one; but this is lead up to the battle at FoFM.AFoc: What's his name.....it's late and I'm getting lazy.ADwD: Varamyr; amongst others Which brings us back to the South of the Wall; and someone on the fire side of the equation going to die. Anyting beyond this is merely a crap shoot. Your guess is as good as mine. But the smart bets on South of the Wall and something assocaited with fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood of Winter Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 someone at hardhome seems the logical guess, no PoVs are there, and it seems as if there are some significant things about to happen there, cant think of anywhere else where that might be the case Hardhome would definitely be great, I hope that happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prontos Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Others have made apoint that every prologue has ended up with someone dying: AGoT: Waymar AKoC: Maester Cressen ASos: actually no one; but this is lead up to the battle at FoFM. AFoc: What's his name.....it's late and I'm getting lazy. ADwD: Varamyr; amongst others In ASos chett was pov and the others kill him he is found by sam as a wight so actually in every prologue the pov dies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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