Veltigar Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The Dance 2.0. It might even be finished by the time the Others emerge from Gorne's way to attack the realms of men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anizzle Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think there will be no Dance 2.0. The Others will come first. There are only two books left, how much longer could it take until the Others showed up in the south? I guess there really isn't anytime left for two huge wars to happen separately. The end is nigh. :crying: Can undead dragons breathe fire? If so I would be disappointed if the Others could control the very thing that is their kryptonite. If not, that'd be pretty cool I guess, but a dragon without fire is not nearly as dangerous, just a really (REALLY) big bird in the end. I would imagine they can breathe ultra cold air that would have a similar effect as liquid nitrogen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion That Mounts Texas Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I guess there really isn't anytime left for two huge wars to happen separately. The end is nigh. :crying: I would imagine they can breathe ultra cold air that would have a similar effect as liquid nitrogen. I agree. undead/ice dragons will in all likelihood breathe freezing breath/flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yeah once you guys linked undead dragons to "ice" dragons I kinda figured that. Sounds good to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agamemnon Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yea I would love to see Dany thinking "oh this is easy, all those guys are super flammable and those "Other guys just melt like popsicles!" and then and ice dragon comes up and freezes the top of her skull off. That would really be tying a nice bow on the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty-El Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 If the Others could resurrect a dragon perhaps the newest rules of dragon riding (dragonseeds) could still apply. Throw Jon's dream of being armored in black ice into the mix along with GRRM's comment of the dark roads he still has to walk and you could make a pretty kick ass crackpot theory. I'm not saying I totally believe it but an undead Jon riding an undead dragon leading an undead army to exact his vengenge would be a pretty amazing tale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion That Mounts Texas Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 If the Others could resurrect a dragon perhaps the newest rules of dragon riding (dragonseeds) could still apply. Throw Jon's dream of being armored in black ice into the mix along with GRRM's comment of the dark roads he still has to walk and you could make a pretty kick ass crackpot theory. I'm not saying I totally believe it but an undead Jon riding an undead dragon leading an undead army to exact his vengenge would be a pretty amazing tale. Are saying Jon will be the Night's King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty-El Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Are saying Jon will be the Night's King?Yup, it goes great with this threads Ice Dragon theory. Or rather, IF Jon became the King of Winter an ice breathing dragon would be an exciting addition. The Nights King theory, to me, makes an ice dragon all the more likely. Just speculating of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agamemnon Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 If R+L=J is true then in a sense Jon IS an Ice Dragon, so throw that into the mix as well and we have a nice crackpot theory going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anizzle Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Val will be his Night Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion That Mounts Texas Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Not a believer at all in this Night's King theory, but I will admit it is interesting if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yeah I've always viewed the Night's King as just part of the watch's storied history (and reason they don't build walls to the South), but that's a pretty compelling crackpot theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agamemnon Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Wow this thread has gotten completely derailed..... I take full credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anizzle Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Wow this thread has gotten completely derailed..... I take full credit.I want to thank all of you for bringing undead ice dragons into my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agamemnon Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I want to thank all of you for bringing undead ice dragons into my life. haha now we just need to bring them into GRRM's life and we will be set :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napyura Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Undead dragons are all I've ever wanted that I didn't know I wanted... Also, how would the Others resurrect a dragon? Wouldn't they need do their weirdo Ice magic on something that's physically present? Or could they resurrect something from just the bones? like from all the dragon bones in the Red Keep? enter lich night king. Night King can make wight dragons, it is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anizzle Posted October 12, 2013 Author Share Posted October 12, 2013 enter lich night king.Night King can make wight dragons, it is .Want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion That Mounts Texas Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 It could happen should one of Dany's dragons fall in battle against the Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost's Shadow Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 The Others are probably closer to invading (dead things in the water, Braavos' water freezing) than Dany is to coming to Westeros to start the Dance between herself and Aegon. I take it that Aegon is going to lose, and right after the end Daenerys will notice that there's Others about (which will probably mean they are way past the North already.) No help will come for the North as the South is too busy slaughtering each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Tahu Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 The Others are probably closer to invading (dead things in the water, Braavos' water freezing) than Dany is to coming to Westeros to start the Dance between herself and Aegon. I take it that Aegon is going to lose, and right after the end Daenerys will notice that there's Others about (which will probably mean they are way past the North already.) No help will come for the North as the South is too busy slaughtering each other. Aside from the first sentence I absolutely agree. I think that the Meereen situation will be over early in TWoW and that Daenerys' arc in the book will end with her landing in Westeros. My overall predictions for the events that will take place, in approximate order: TWoW: Boltons are crushed by Stannis and the North, and the North procedes to turn on Stannis when Rickon returns Daenerys returns and Yunkai is crushed Euron takes the Reach (with Sam as his PoV) Aegon takes King's Landing (with Tyrell+Martell support) Jon revived Deaths of Tommen and Myrcella Sansa receives the support of the Vale and they declare for Rickon Fall of House Lannister (Cersei and Jaime dead) Daenerys lands. ADoS: first half: prologue - the Wall comes down The North tries (and fails) to hold off the Others Daenerys declares war on Aegon Euron is crushed by Victarion from the east and Aeron/Theon/Asha from the west. They declare for Daenerys Aegon is defeated. second half: The Others cross the neck. The south, led by Daenerys, join with the last survivors of the Northern resistance, led by Jon. My crackpot theory: Stannis flees beyond the Wall after the North turn on him. He isn't seen again until ADoS prologue, with his new army... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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